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India-Pakistan
Indian experts warn of growing Chinese influence
2010-05-02
NEW DELHI: India's top experts on Chinese affairs have accused New Delhi of lacking the spine to check Chinese influence in the region.

Deliberating during a two-day seminar organised by the think-tank Observer Research Foundation (RRF), strategists blamed poor implementation and delivery of policies to contain Beijing's growing influence in the region and even cautioned the Indian government against taking China's claim of a peaceful rise on face value.

Going through China's track record, Dr Brahma Chellaney noted that the people's republic began its international debut through wars, even when it was weak and poor in the 1940s and 1950s.

Inaugurating the seminar Dr Chellaney said, “What did they (China) do even when they were poor and weak? They annexed Xinjiang in 1949, occupied Tibet in 1950-51, invaded South Korea in 1950, attacked India in 1962 and took on the Soviet Union in border conflict in 1969 and invaded Vietnam in 1979.'

“I don't want to comment on whether the rising China will be benign or whether it will pose a security threats. There is lots of debate going on over this. But the policy-makers should look at its track record,' he said.

Dr Chellaney said he was not proposing containing China, “but creating the necessary checks and balances so that the might of China is forced to balance itself. And China remains on the positive side of the ledger, and not on the debit side,' he said.

He noted that military muscle was a must before amassing wealth, and not even a single country in the world had done it the other way round.

Dr Chellaney said while China steadily pursued its military policy in the 1950s and developed thermo-nuclear capacity and ICBMs in 1978, India does not have an ICBM even on paper.

He added India was the only large country in the world that was dependent on imports for its defence needs – whether it is rifles, tanks, aircraft or any other ammunition.

He was also apprehensive of New Delhi celebrating India-China relations. “Reality is always two sided. To me, this means 60 years of China becoming our neighbour by annexing Tibet. Why should we celebrate this? But for the government of India it is time for celebration,' he said.
Posted by:Steve White

#3  See also PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > A CHINESE SUBCONTINENT [South Asia > no longer the proverbial "INDIAN SUBCONTINENT" OF HISTORY]

* GUAM PDN FORUMS > JAPAN WILL NOT SHOOT DOWN US-GUAM BOUND LR MISSLES. Nippon argues that JAPAN'S POST-WW2 CONSTITUTION, while allowing Japan to overtly defend or criticize the rights of its International Allies + World nations, + also mil defend JAPAN PROPER IN "SUFFICIENT" SELF-DEFENSE, DOES NOT ALLOW JAPAN TO DEV, DEPLOY SUPERIOR EFFEC MIL SYS BEYOND THE RESTRICTED/LIMITED SCOPE OF JAPAN-ONLY SELF-DEFENSE.

IOW, CONSTITUTIONALLY OR "LEGALLY" > JAPAN belivs it currently cannot interfere andor shootdown DRPK + PLA LR ICBMS FLYING OER ITS OWN AIRSPACE UNLESS JAPAN IS SPECIFICALLY TARGETED FOR MIL = NUKE ATTACK.

and

* WMF > NORTH KOREA'S NEW "FAST ATTACK SOUTH" WAR STRATEGY AGZ SOUTH KOREA CALLS FOR RAPID LIMITED OR PARTIAL CONQUEST OF THE SOUTH, ESPEC SEOUL AND SELECT URBAN, ECON TARGETS. PREEMPTIVE AIR, MISSLE "FIRST STRIKES" AGZ US, ROK, + JAPANESE AIRPOWER + KEY DEFENSES. FATAL WEAKNESS IS LACK OF FUEL FOR DPRK OFFENSIVE FORCES.

and

SAME > NEW DPRK WAR STRATEGY + FAILURE OF THE UN, US, + CHINA TO PUNISH NORTH KOREA OVER THE "CHEONAN" INCIDENT MAY LEAD SOUTH KOREA TO PRODUCE NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

versus

SAME > NORTH KOREA OPENS THE DOOR TO CHINESE TOURISM, ECONOMIC INVESTMENT.

** ION SAME > CHINA ANGRY AT ARMED NAVAL EXPULSION OF "FISHERY 311" VESSEL FROM NANSHA ISLANDS. MALAYSIA WARNED THAT PLAN WILL MIL PROTECT CHIN FISHING VESSELS/FLEETS, CLAIM OF SOVEREIGNTY OVER THE NANSHAS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-05-03 00:11  

#2  "What did they [China] do even when they were poor and weak" > How many incidents or events in US-World History weren't supposed to occur, but did, according many of the Rationalists or Pragmatists?

* "RAMBO WEEK" ON TV > To paraph RAMBO - "THE MIND-HEART" [Soul, Spirit, etc.] IS THE BEST/ULTIMATE WEAPON", LEADERSHIP + GUMPTION + WILL TO DO, NOT THE GUN + NUKE + .......+ DEATH STAR.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-05-02 19:14  

#1  He noted that military muscle was a must before amassing wealth, and not even a single country in the world had done it the other way round.

He better go back to his history books.

This is shaping up like a replay of WWI. Except that this time we should really sit it out. The Chinese are bad, no question. But the Indians, like the Brits, while apparently a democracy, are no beauty either.

They need to reach a resolution themselves and it's not at all clear to me how we help. Or if we do, how we avoid getting sucked into a bigger briar patch than WWII and then NATO.

We need to avoid the mistake of Korea and spell out the trip lines very clearly. What goes on on the other side is up to them.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2010-05-02 07:08  

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