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Home Front: Culture Wars
Law proposes NY cops shoot like Lone Ranger
2010-05-26
We have been here before. Take note on who proposed it then...
City cops are livid over a legislative proposal that could handcuff the brave officers involved in life-and-death confrontations every day -- requiring them to shoot gun-wielding suspects in the arm or leg rather than shoot to kill, The Post has learned.
How about the feet? I've heard they do that...someplace.
The "minimum force" bill, which surfaced in the Assembly last week, seeks to amend the state penal codes' "justification" clause that allows an officer the right to kill a thug if he feels his life or someone else's is in imminent danger.

The bill -- drafted in the wake of Sean Bell's controversial police shooting death -- would force officers to use their weapons "with the intent to stop, rather than kill" a suspect. They would be mandated to "shoot a suspect in the arm or the leg."
Geez, Muldoon! Ya killed him! You're supposed to shoot the gun outta his hand!
Damn, sarge. Looks like I missed.

Under present NYPD training, cops are taught to shoot at the center of their target and fire their weapon until the threat has been stopped.

"These are split-second, spontaneous events -- and officers have to make a full assessment in a fraction of a second," said an angry Michael Paladino, president of the Detectives Endowment Association. "It is not realistic, and it exists only in cartoons."
Maybe the cops can buy guns from ACME where the flags that say "BANG!" come out when you pull the trigger?
"It's moronic and would create two sets of rules in the streets if there is a gunfight. This legislation would require officers to literally shoot the gun out of someone's hand or shoot to wound them in the leg or arm."
Or both. And all at once...
"I don't know of any criminal who doesn't shoot to kill. They are not bound by any restrictions. The legislators have their heads buried in the sand, and we would not be able to fully protect the public or ourselves."

In fact, NYPD officers and detectives hit their targets only 17 percent of the time because of the incredibly stressful circumstances surrounding a shooting.

Paladino, whose association represents 5,100 investigators, said he showed the bill last week to Vice President Joe Biden, who scoffed and suggested it be dubbed "The John Wayne Bill" because it demands sharp-shooting skills of the kind only seen in movies.
Woah! Even JOE thinks it's stupid! So you know it's stupid...
Sponsored by Brooklyn Assembly Members Annette Robinson (D-Bedford Stuyvesant) and Darryl Towns (D-East New York), the bill came up at the Assembly Codes Committee but was held for further consideration rather than killed or put to vote before the full Assembly.
Hmmmmmm...interesting bill. I think we'll put that in the circular file so I know where it is. Have a nice day, guys.
They did not immediately comment.
Probably too busy calling for a SWAT team because somebody's dog shit on their lawn...
Assemblyman Joseph Lentol, the Codes Committee chair from Fort Greene and Williamsburg, said that the bill is well-intentioned but that the language may need changing.
Yeah, that sounds so much better then "they're friggin idiots."
Posted by:tu3031

#8  I was aiming for his hand, and I missed. Its not my fault his hand was over his chest.
Posted by: OldSpook   2010-05-26 22:43  

#7  CF: Yes and thanks for finishing my thought.
My son is a Lakewood city att'y and was friends with the four that were gunned down. He is still having bad days from that; on the plus side, he is no longer in the plea-deal mode.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2010-05-26 21:28  

#6  aim for the groin
Posted by: Frank G   2010-05-26 21:26  

#5  OBVIOUSLY,
two A-holes that have never shot a pistol before.

That would be kind of cool to have ace marksman, shoot from the hip lawmen, like from the cowboy movies. Like for someone smoking in a restaurant, they could shoot the cherry off the end of the cigarette. Maybe we could require that they be masters of the bullwhip also, so they could do kewl Indiana Jones whip tricks and not even need a gun.
Posted by: bigjim-CA   2010-05-26 21:08  

#4  Shouldn't that be 'Perps that were packing illegally USN?

Your in a gunfight and you are supposed to stop and take careful aim at the guy's arm?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2010-05-26 17:57  

#3  Just shoot to graze the skull. That way the targeted perp is only knocked out. Just like in the movies.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839   2010-05-26 16:33  

#2  A law like this could only be written by someone who has never fired a gun in their life.
Posted by: SteveS   2010-05-26 14:47  

#1  Without even sending it to them, I think I know what the Lakewood, WA police force would think of this bill. Maybe the NY idiot should check out reality; we had 7 LE's killed or wounded in the past few months by perps that were packin'.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2010-05-26 00:57  

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