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| Chinese PM visits Seoul as Korea crisis continues |
| 2010-05-29 |
| Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao is visiting South Korea amid continuing tension over the sinking - allegedly by North Korea - of a South Korean warship in March. The issue is expected to dominate Mr Wen's talks on Friday with the South Korean President, Lee Myung-bak. International investigators have blamed North Korea for sinking the warship. But China has so far refused to join in the widespread condemnation of its old ally, Pyongyang. The Chinese state news agency Xinhua quoted the Chinese ambassador to South Korea, Zhang Xinsen, as saying the visit would "strongly boost" ties between the two countries. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #15 might wanna give it a rest, GT. OS did, and I'm sick of it right this second. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2010-05-29 21:06 |
| #14 Bottom line up front. Your boy calls women twats, dimwits, fuckwits, etc? Regardless of his former enlistment or commission, what is not offensive about that? And why should I not be offended again, since I was on the receiving end of his rude? I don't give a good Goddarn what rank you are, that is not even called for, and if OS is a retired Officer or even enlisted calling a complete stranger on Rantburg a twat is conduct unbecoming. |
| Posted by: GirlThursday 2010-05-29 21:05 |
| #13 No GT did not use Horseshit first. Reread please. And I have it on good authority that Officers are flown to a safehaven/bunker in severe situations--based on a high level security clearance. The only thing being impuned here is me, so it also is not going to go unnoticed. So if you want to read into my "impune", know that it is based on having an actual security clearance and a collge degree. OH GT Might be an officer too, yall!!!! Security clearance and actual facts. Good we got that out of the way. |
| Posted by: GirlThursday 2010-05-29 20:56 |
| #12 So .... I wasn't around y'day, went to read the thread in question. So far as I can tell, GirlThursday made it personal first by referring to OS' detailed analysis as 'horseshit talk'. FWIW I haven't an informed opinion re: NBC attack scenarios in Korea. I do note that GirlThursday has made repeated reference in the past to what s/he sees as the stupid, lazy unethical, uncourageous or (your disdainful assertion here) nature of officers, especially senior officers, in general. It was the commrnt Colonels and above are airlifted out just in the nick of time. that set OS off yesterday. I'm the wife of a retired officer and the friend and colleague of Army and Marine Colonels who've served in theater in Iraq and Afghanistan. On the assumption this comment refers to US (rather than SORK) officers - and there's nothing to suggest it doesn't - I myself find that sort of allegation deeply, deeply offensive as well. GT, I would be sorry to see you leave Rantburg. But if you toss out comments that impune the honor and integrity of whole groups of military leaders don't be surprised if you trigger a heated and personal response - especially from regulars who are no longer serving because they were seriously injured in combat. |
| Posted by: lotp 2010-05-29 17:23 |
| #11 GT don't make a decision while you're hot. Give it a few days. For what it's worth, I hope you hang around. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2010-05-29 13:28 |
| #10 read past the stuff that is too personal and filter the stuff that is ignorant. we all have something to add, and some parts that are best left unsaid. if we all take a moment to filter what we say, and another to filter what we will react to, we get closer to the 'civil well reasoned discourse' if any of us leave, we are all diminished. stick around GT, you would be missed. |
| Posted by: abu do you love 2010-05-29 13:12 |
| #9 I admit I'm tired of OldSpook's tantrums and constant "ArcLight" rants. I've been lurking and commenting on Rantburg for at least 4 years and rarely gain anything constructive from OldSpook's comments. He comes across as if he is owed something special because he's a veteran and he is quick to name-call, cuss, and belittle people. There are alot of veterans on Rantburg, including myself, who are able to behave and treat others respectfully, unfortunately, he regularly demonstrates he cannot. |
| Posted by: Yosemite Sam 2010-05-29 12:20 |
| #8 I would prefer that you both leave. But that's just me. I suspect Rammers comment at the end of the thread was the stuff of truth, altho I don't know if rammer is his real name. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2010-05-29 11:33 |
| #7 GT, I too would prefer that you not leave. |
| Posted by: Whiskey Mike 2010-05-29 11:12 |
| #6 I didn't see it either. GT: hang around. We like you even if you're "just an E-4". I appreciate that you served honorably: you served which is more than I did. I find your comments interesting. OS: chill, dude. You're a good man in a fire-fight but you need, every day, to live up to your ideals and your faith in how you treat people. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2010-05-29 10:45 |
| #5 GirlThursday, redacting doesn't make a post go away. Redacting puts the post in the Sinktrap with a link, so that anyone can see it, sitting on the stool in the corner with the Idiot cap on. This is considered a punishment here at Rantburg for posts that are out of line. Had I seen OldSpook's post before the roll-over I would have sink-trapped it, but my mother is here for a visit, and we were doing end-of-the-schoolyear offspring stuff during the crucial time period. A choral concert -- they sang Handel's Dixit Dominus among other things. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2010-05-29 09:37 |
| #4 OldSpook is a well-known crochety old man. Just let him say what he wants. It's when people feel the need to one-up each other and be "proved right" that problems occur. To "punish" rantburg by saying 'I'm taking my basketball and going home!' due to the actions of another poster is childish. I can't fucking stand the JosephMendiola nonsense smeared all over the website. You know what? I just ignore the guy and don't even read his comments. |
| Posted by: gromky 2010-05-29 05:26 |
| #3 Enuf of this vile name calling and spitting. You are both restricted to the company area and will be issued an in-basket Article-15 PAYPAL fine of $ 25. First Sergeant Pruitt, collect the fines please. Now both of you, get out of my office! |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2010-05-29 04:24 |
| #2 How is this for a solution: I will go away. Much to the pleasure of Rantburgers apparently. Not all RBers by any means, GT. Think about it. OS sent himself to his room even before he had cooled down, so that says something(s) both in your favor and his. If you peel away the emotion from that thread, there was a lot to be learned, and a lot of good places left to explore, mostly because of both of you. Those are the best arguments. I would like to see more (minus the name-calling), but it requires all the players to be thick-skinned, of the variety of those who are truly trying to learn in order to understand. These are the best people to have around in my opinion. They aren't too shy to teach, they aren't too proud to learn, and they can push as hard as necessary to do either or both. Now what form that pushing/learning/teaching comes in, that is another topic all by itself. But they all have my respect as long as they come as a confident, balanced package. Although sometimes that confidence and balance comes after a cooling off period. :-) |
| Posted by: gorb 2010-05-29 03:34 |
| #1 20100528 16:55 OldSpook in the O Lounge: "Warning, I popped a gasket at Girl Thursday. I have had enough of her halfwitted snotty ways. She reminds me of some fucking stupid E4 that thinks they know it all because they had a G-2 junior analyst job at Division someplace. Someone may want to redact my last comment in that Korea thread. Right now, I'm steamed. Breaking away. Please post that I have been assigned a cooling off if you like" What a way to handle it. After calling me a twat, halfwit, fuckwit, stupid E-4 Dishonorable little bitch, etc, etc., he attempts to make it go away. How is this for a solution: I will go away. Much to the pleasure of Rantburgers apparently. The abuse displayed (unchecked) by Mr. Spook is not a necessary accompaniment to obtaining news. And I held a position of responsibility that exceeds the description of me given by Mr. Spook, and I left the service with the word Honorable on my DD214 after years of service. |
| Posted by: TwatThursday 2010-05-29 00:51 |