You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
Home Front: Culture Wars
Obama's Legacy - Plunging Crime Rates
2010-09-15
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has release the results of Crime in the United States 2009. There is an across the board drop in violent crime, despite the dire economic circumstances we find ourselves in.

Each of the violent crime categories decreased from 2008—murder (7.3 percent), robbery (8.0 percent), aggravated assault (4.2 percent), and forcible rape (2.6 percent).

This all occurred in the same year that Americans purchased 14 million firearms—more than the combined active armies of the top 21 countries in the world. We also purchased an estimated 14+ billion rounds of ammunition during that same time period.

It is also worth remembering that these purchases were made during a year where gun rights were ascendant, and Americans could carry weapons in more areas as firearm ownerÂ’s rights continued to go mainstream.
The report also contains plenty of additional details, charts, and tables on crime during 2009, including more on offenses, criminals, victims, weapons used, geographic locations, etc. To find out about the crime picture in your state, go to our State Totals table.
Posted by: Anonymoose

#13  Despite the best efforts of the legal and 'human rights' fraterneties, this is probably the impact of technology on detection and conviction rates.

From Australia,

Overall, studies have shown juries are three times more likely to convict in identical cases if DNA evidence is presented at a trial.
Posted by: phil_b   2010-09-15 20:48  

#12  At one time, I analyzed crime statistics--40 years ago. Most likely the demographics of crime has changed since that time. About the only thing that I could find of the variables looked at that was correlated with crime was whether or not the person could read. That could be correlated with a lot of other things mentioned in this thread, father present in family, gangs in neighborhood, schooling, religious influences, etc.
Posted by: JohnQC   2010-09-15 15:29  

#11  Besoeker,
I've heard my father say almost exactly the same thing about Oakland. Almost 30 years as a policeman there and he knew virtually every crook in town. 95% of the b.s. going on was caused by the
"regulars", the rest was random, or newbes entering the game.
Posted by: bigjim-CA   2010-09-15 14:05  

#10  I totally agree with bp. I will also say that I'm pretty sure lots of potential criminals were aborted in the early nineties and I think it's a good thing.
Posted by: Penguin   2010-09-15 13:51  

#9  "In this town of 250,000 it's the same 600-800 mopes that we generally chase around."

Local policeman from college, name long forgotten.
Posted by: Besoeker   2010-09-15 12:05  

#8  I learned long ago, from a prominent criminologist, that historic crime rates almost exactly match the size of the male population age 15-30 cohort in proportion to the society at large. The only variables include married members of that group, fathers present in the family, and otherwise occupied members of that group (already in custody, in the military, etc...)

Spending on "anti-crime" programs, firearm ownership, and all other "social" trends really don't have a noticeable correlative effect.

Simply put, societies with lots of criminal opportunities and lots of potential criminals have lots of crime, but the opportunities are not the most important factor.

Wonder if that is still the case.
Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division   2010-09-15 11:24  

#7  How much of this is due to illegal immigrants leaving the country due to the recession/depression?
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313   2010-09-15 10:45  

#6  BP: Your point is well taken and an important distinction, to be sure.
Posted by: eltoroverde   2010-09-15 10:30  

#5  The left's mantra has been poverty=crime.

Both sides of the equation need to reexamined, neither of which the left would ever want to do. If poverty is increasing due to the economic recession then by the formula crime should also increase. General indications are that the trends are not running parallel. That means either crime is a chosen behavior rather than just an environmental behavior or that the very definition of poverty is false. In the former case implies that free will of the individual not 'The Man' or 'The Establishment' is the fundamental causal factor. That kills the left's victim game. In the latter case, it means that which is defined as poverty isn't. The relativity of simply drawing a statistical line and declaring anyone below it poor is a pure fiction. It exposes the excess and exaggeration of leftist rhetoric, once again, selling their guilt trips. Remember that when the numbers don't fit the theory, throw out the numbers. /sarc off
Posted by: Procopius2k   2010-09-15 08:59  

#4  > "A well-armed society is a polite society?"

But a well armed non society is another Somalia.

It's the society bit that's important, not the guns.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2010-09-15 08:28  

#3  Ditto and ditto. Over the years more and more states have passed concealed carry laws. States where such laws have been passed, "violent" crime has gone done. Some of the liberal blue states where one cannot carry under just about any circumstances, violent crime is still a problem. 2nd amendment-based lawsuits are changing things in these hard-core anti-2nd amendment cities and states.
Posted by: JohnQC   2010-09-15 07:55  

#2  Reminds me of the saying, "A well-armed society is a polite society?"

Or something like that.
Posted by: eltoroverde   2010-09-15 07:27  

#1  Please forgive me if I fail to believe any of these FBI statistics.
Posted by: Besoeker   2010-09-15 02:01  

00:00