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| Missile Shot Off Los Angeles Still a Mystery for Pentagon Officials |
| 2010-11-09 |
| Posted by:Yosemite Sam |
| #36 30 miles west of LA and north of Catalina. Supposedly, NOTAM issued alert "KZLA LOS ANGELES A2832/10 - THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176. CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE - FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010" Thats a one day no-fly order by DINS according to Slenke. The time is off, but 8 oclock is 8 oclock in zulu world. It's ours. |
| Posted by: newc 2010-11-09 22:26 |
| #35 I fly LA to Australia and back a lot, and we come in over the the Catalina Islands all the time. I think that area is the flight path for traffic to and from Asia as well- in other words a very busy spot for civil aviation. Very unlikely that anyone would send up a missile right thru it, IMO. |
| Posted by: Grunter 2010-11-09 21:44 |
| #34 Aviation expert via Instapundit sez: It wuz a jet! |
| Posted by: Scooter McGruder 2010-11-09 21:35 |
| #33 Sub launched missile from the location and path. So whose boat? If it was a complete surprise, the Navy would be out churning up the water looking for it, so we knew it was there. Can't see the Russians doing something so provocative. That leaves the ChiComs taking one of their new Jin class boats out for an in-your-face drive or an American test. Lack of a NOTAM warning is curious. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2010-11-09 20:42 |
| #32 It is the CA budget Deficit Chart |
| Posted by: airandee 2010-11-09 20:35 |
| #31 the contrails from Vandenberg launches are usually visible from San Diego, and with the sun hitting them, they show spectacular colors. This is going in the wrong direction(?) and doesn't show the colors. I suspect it was a jet contrail. Easy enough to research flights in/time and position. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2010-11-09 20:16 |
| #30 Its the Greys. Launching from the sea. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2010-11-09 19:59 |
| #29 Model rockteers can get carried away, but note the "crazy trail" caused by high altitude winds. |
| Posted by: Guillibaldo Unusing2147 2010-11-09 19:58 |
| #28 Vandenberg Air Force based confirmed they launched a Delta II rocket on Friday but was not responsible for yesterday's missile |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2010-11-09 19:29 |
| #27 Its about time the WEST coast got a little shaken up. Lala land and alls well in paradise is just so last decade, but I don't think its caught up with the libs yet. |
| Posted by: Private Eye 2010-11-09 19:06 |
| #26 Rescue flare from California Conservatives? Uh, yeah. I fired it myself. PLEASE HELP!!! |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-11-09 18:56 |
| #25 I concur wid #3 - IMO its either some kind of USN Boomer Test, IMPROV TRIDENT or POST-TRIDENT? FBMS [SLCM?]; or perhaps even SUB-BASED SPACE-BMD??? USDOD Helos as Observation, + theres no way a contemporary foreign Sub can get pass HI + that close to CA-liforney widout being detected by Navy UW monitors, + its a known = historical USN Test Area. AFAIK the econ-trubled Russians have not yet converted any of their large Subs into FIRE-N-FORGET or FIRE-N-GUIDE, Nuke-WMDS Armed USV Submarine "Mother-ships", nor any of their surface Merchant ships for simil purpose [FIRE/ARSENAL SHIPS]. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2010-11-09 18:45 |
| #24 Just sayin ... |
| Posted by: DMFD 2010-11-09 18:45 |
| #23 Emergency daylight Aurora flight. Contrail doesn't match reports though. |
| Posted by: Hellfish 2010-11-09 18:37 |
| #22 Maybe the Aliens are...leaving? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2010-11-09 18:32 |
| #21 The light just dawned. On Nov 6, there was an odd report of a rocket being launched at Luke AFB, on the West side of Phoenix. With pictures taken by a licensed pilot. "The object portrayed characteristics of a missile launch with slightly arcing trajectory, lingering plume, and rapid ascent." But Luke AFB is flat as a pancake. Any gantry erected there would have been as obvious as all heck. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2010-11-09 18:15 |
| #20 Whatever it was...where did it go? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2010-11-09 17:53 |
| #19 Someone is real deep into Model Rockets..... |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2010-11-09 17:38 |
| #18 Check out the comments at the original article--everything from standard policy for a 'Broken Arrow' to a towed NK sub while Obama is away. Someone clearly knows the truth and the silence is getting me very nervous. |
| Posted by: Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2010-11-09 17:15 |
| #17 Swamp Gas! |
| Posted by: Chaising the Really Smart3203 2010-11-09 17:12 |
| #16 The US has multiple systems to track missile launches. NORAD and Northcom aren't the only eggs in the basket and all of the resources talk to each other. If NORAD didn't pick it up (and it picked up the oil well fires in the gulf) most likely it wasn't a missile. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2010-11-09 17:00 |
| #15 Still w/in the 24 hr. rule, but the gist of these comments lends credence to the super-secret-moose-n-squirrel-division. Where's Jay Ward? |
| Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2010-11-09 16:41 |
| #14 At this point, the military is working only with video taken from the local news camera , and NORAD and Northcom apparently were not able to detect the contrail on their own. I can remember during Y2K that they could detect Scud launches from some Russian unit on manuevers in Russia. Tough to see how they could miss this. If they did though, someone's ass is toast. Probably many asses... |
| Posted by: tu3031 2010-11-09 16:16 |
| #13 #10 Some scientists in the area are saying that it was a jet contrail viewed from a funny angle. YMMV and 24-Hour Rule etc.. 100% contrail, just look at it.. |
| Posted by: Chunky Ebbaper9317 2010-11-09 15:51 |
| #12 Rescue flare from California Conservatives? |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2010-11-09 15:45 |
| #11 Maybe a giant heap of guano exploded? and it was view from a funny angle? |
| Posted by: Private Eye 2010-11-09 14:56 |
| #10 Some scientists in the area are saying that it was a jet contrail viewed from a funny angle. YMMV and 24-Hour Rule etc. |
| Posted by: Free Radical 2010-11-09 14:52 |
| #9 SPECTRE |
| Posted by: Private Eye 2010-11-09 14:52 |
| #8 Swamp Gas. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2010-11-09 14:43 |
| #7 India taking possession of their new boomer? Kicking the tires and revving the engine? Would YOU take somebody's word that the missiles would fire? |
| Posted by: mojo 2010-11-09 14:40 |
| #6 Mods, pls, trash my extraneous dupe, did not notice the topic present already. Thx! Must be Lex Luthor. |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2010-11-09 14:33 |
| #5 In California, we can ask the Dolphins what happened? Whatever the DC Pentagon said, the question should be directed elsewhere. |
| Posted by: Muggsy Glink 2010-11-09 13:50 |
| #4 Likely enough Moose, and is the bureaucracy set up for Pentagon deniability - i.e. not us, but we don't know what NSA/CIA/super-secret-moose-n-squirrel-division is up to? Also, I haven't looked at all, but has anyone asked about tracking sea, and undersea, traffic in the area? It's one thing to miss a zodiac offshore Bombay, but another to miss a large submarine off LA - or is it? |
| Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2010-11-09 13:32 |
| #3 My guess is that it was a target missile for a new type anti-missile system. Probably something so classified it would make your toenails rot off. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2010-11-09 13:23 |
| #2 Looks like a 2nd helicopter visible in the distance. There are likely other video recordings of the same event that have yet to surface. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-11-09 13:12 |
| #1 China launching missiles on our doorstep, or the Navy being mum? Get your tinfoil hats ready! |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2010-11-09 12:46 |