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China-Japan-Koreas
China 'frustrated' with North Korea
2010-12-01
[Bangla Daily Star] Officials in China have expressed frustration with communist ally North Korea, according to leaked classified US diplomatic cables.
Why should they get off easy?
Pyongyang was behaving like a "spoiled child", a Chinese foreign ministry official is quoted as having said in 2009, in cables released by Wikileaks.
I think it's more like a "lunatic"...
Officials reportedly told South Korean counterparts that Beijing placed little value on the North as a buffer state.

The peninsula should be reunified under Seoul's control, they suggested.

The revelations come as regional tensions remain high after the North shelled a South Korean island a week ago.

The US administration says the Wikileaks disclosures are an attack on the world community, but that partnerships it had worked hard to build would withstand the challenge.

China has responded to the leaks by urging the US to "properly handle relevant issues," a foreign ministry official said yesterday.

'NEW REALITY'
One cable published on Monday reveals that China's Vice Foreign Minister, He Yafei, told the US charge d'affaires in Beijing that North Korea was behaving like a "spoiled child" to get Washington's attention in April 2009 by carrying out missile tests.

A second dispatch from September 2009 said Mr He had downplayed Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao's trip to Pyongyang, telling the US Deputy Secretary of State, James Steinberg: "We may not like them... [but] they are a neighbour."

He said Mr Wen would push for denuclearisation and a return to talks.

Six-party talks aimed at defusing the nuclear issue and involving the two Koreas, the US, China, Japan and Russia have been stalled since April 2009.

South Korea and the US say they should not resume until the North has made a genuine offer on halting its nuclear programme.

Another cable relays a discussion over an official lunch in February 2010 between former South Korean Vice Foreign Minister Chun Yung-woo and the US ambassador to Seoul, Kathleen Stephens.

The minister is said to have revealed that a new, younger generation of Chinese leaders no longer regarded North Korea as a useful or reliable ally, and would not risk renewed armed conflict on the peninsula.

Mr Chun confidently had predicted that North Korea "had already collapsed economically and would collapse politically two to three years after the death of Kim Jong-il", despite his efforts to obtain Chinese help and to secure the succession for his son, Ms Stephens wrote.

"The PRC would be comfortable with a reunified Korea controlled by Seoul and anchored to the United States in a 'benign alliance' - as long as Korea was not hostile towards China," her message added.

While these cables offer fascinating insights, seasoned Korea-watchers caution that this is a very "South Korean" view of the policy debate in Beijing, says the BBC's diplomatic correspondent, Jonathan Marcus.

It remains unknown whether this South Korean assessment - as reported to Washington - is an accurate reflection of Beijing's current thinking, adds our correspondent.

COMPUTER HACKING
The communications between the US State Department and its embassies and consulates around the world were sent between 1966 and 2010.

Aggressive steps were being taken against those who "stole" the information, said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,
... sometimes described as the Smartest Woman in the World and at other times as Mrs. Bill...
adding that every country had to be able to have honest, private dialogue with other countries about issues of common concern.

No one has been charged with passing them to Wikileaks, but suspicion has fallen on US Army Private Bradley Manning, an intelligence analyst jugged in Iraq in June and charged over an earlier leak of a classified video.
As far as I know Army privates don't have access to State Department cables. I can't recall ever having seen one in 27 years in the intel bizniz. I'm guessing a State Department source...
Ecuador has offered Wikileaks founder Julian Assange "unconditional" residency in the country. Deputy Foreign Minister Kintto Lucas praised people like Mr Assange "who are constantly investigating and trying to get light out of the dark corners of information".
Posted by:Fred

#8  TOPIX > CHINA DENIES WIKILEAKS CLAIMS OF NORTH KOREA COLLAPSE.

* SAME > {Asahi Shimbun] KIM JONG-UN BEHIND [YeongPyeong Island] HIT ON SOUTH.

ARTIC = Source claimed that KIM JONG-UN also ORDERED DPRK ARMY LAST MONTH TO PREPARE TO FIGHT BACK IFF THERE ARE NEW [US-ROK]"PROVOCATIONS".

IOW, IIUC DPRK ARMY TO PREPARE FOR ESCALATION + ULTIMATELY ALL-OUT WAR IFF SOUTH KOREA MIL RESPONDS TO "CHEONAN", ETC. INCIDENTS.

KIM JONG-UN "MAKING HIS BONES" to impress Big Daddy + Army, Regime???

VERSIES

* PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > {Telegraph.UK] US-ROK WAR GAMES MAY BE OVER BUT NORTH KOREA STILL HASN'T BLINKED, US RUNNING OUT OF OPTIONS.

ARTIC = US-CHINA desired "AID FOR NUKES" vee DPRK is failing to stop DPRK's NucProgs, which in turn is demonstrating the validity of CHINA'S POSITION ON HOW TO HANDLE THE DPRK AS SUPERIOR TO THAT OF THE US-ALLIES???

and

* FREEREPUBLIC > REPORT: NORTH KOREA MAY STRIKE SOUTH AGAIN IN 2010. ROK Targets in Gyeonggi Province, ROK Navy ships in Yellow Sea, etc.

* THE HINDU > [South Korean]ENVOY: SOUTH KOREA [+ Japan] RELIES ON US NUCLEAR UMBRELLA, for both EFFEC DETERRENCE + MIL COUNTERRESPONSE despite SOKOR not having any US nukes based on its soil.

IOW, IIUC once again the ROK GOVT is trying hard NOT to say it wants its own NUCWEAPS.

* YONHAP/TOPIX > SOUTH KOREA SPY CHIEF: NORTH KOREA LIKLEY TO THREATEN TO ATTACK/PROVOKE SOUTH AGAIN, as due to INTERNAL COMPLAINTS agz KIM FAMILY DYNASTY + HEIR APPARENT JIM JONG-UN, + THE DPRK'S WORSENING FOOD, ECON SITUATION.

Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-12-01 23:08  

#7  >>I certainly hope this puts and end to the "Chicoms dictate what NK does" idea that seems so prevalent here. <<

Because if you can't take the word of a Chinese diplomat, whose word can you take?
Posted by: Pstanley   2010-12-01 12:40  

#6  "Welcome to the party, pal!"
Posted by: mojo   2010-12-01 11:05  

#5  ...the day the Chinese delegation arrives at Kimpo airport to work the unification particulars.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2010-12-01 08:51  

#4  I certainly hope this puts and end to the "Chicoms dictate what NK does" idea that seems so prevalent here.
Posted by: gromky   2010-12-01 04:03  

#3  Joe - Surrounded by starving in Burma, Korea and Pakiwakiland should be a good start on a no-mans-land buffer.
Posted by: Water Modem   2010-12-01 01:21  

#2  CHINESE MIL FORUM > {YouTube] CHINA SET TO BAN BLACKS + MONGOLIANS [+ Muslims]???

* PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > [China's Ally]PAKISTAN IS NOW A WATER-STRESSED COUNTRY.

"Water-stress" = future FOOD, OTHER ECON STRESS.

STARVING NOKORS ON THE ONE, + FUTURE STARVING PAKIS ON THE OTHER???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-12-01 00:52  

#1  ION DEFENCE WEB > {Reuters] JAPAN:POSSIBLE NORTH KOREA MAY HAVE ADVANCED NUCLEAR ARMS.

* YONHAP EDITORIAL > [ROK should..]FORTIFY YELLOW SEA ISLANDS AS PERFECT STRATEGIC FORTRESS.

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WIKILEAKS DOCS = CHIN-LED "FINLANDIZATION" OR NORTH = "UNIFIED KOREA" [West German Model]; VERSUS NEW SOUTH KOREAN ADMIN WHOM FAVORS CLOSER MIL TIES WID US [+ JAPAN], but whom also believes SOUTH KOREA SHOULD REPLACE JAPAN AS THE US' PRIMARY MILPOL ALLY IN NOTHEAST ASIA???

* NEWS KERALA/TOPIX > RUSSIAN PRESIDENT WARNS OF NEW ARMS RACE [may occur widn next 10 years iff NATO-RUSS COOPER ON MISSLE DEFENSE FAILS].

IMO also read, US-RUSSIA "NEW START" FAILURE.

IOW, there goes a'flyin away CHINA'S EEZ-SEZ in the Yellow Sea = West Sea.

* XINHUA > [MILF] PHILIPPINE MUSLIM REBELS WARN OF RESURGENCE OF ARMED CONFLICT IN MINDANAO, unless Malaysia-led International Monitorng Teams [IMTS] are renewed upon expiration of duty.

* BHARAT RAKSHAK POSTER > believes CHINA + PLA, PLAN will need 10-YEARS-OR-MORE to enter + conduct effec routine operations in the INDIAN OCEAN = SOUTH CHINA SEAS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-12-01 00:47  

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