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China-Japan-Koreas
Unfed Soldiers Desert Counter-Invasion Exercises
2010-12-14
"Amidst freezing temperatures fluctuating between 20 and 30 degrees, soldiers taking part in a joint air force - special operations forces training exercise at a military airbase in Samjiyeon weren't even provided with food," reported a source in Yanggangdo on the 6th December.
If that's the case, the Korean peninsula is about to go kaboom. They can't even feed their soldiers.
In North Korea's current wartime conditions, an article on the 9th December reported that the North's low altitude AN-2 fighter planes were taking part in counter invasion exercises with members of the of the 43rd brigade 10th corps special forces .

"Cold and hungry soldiers raiding villages for dogs and even roasting the rats and cats they find during winter exercises is not entirely new but the number of soldiers deserting because of their senior officers physical and verbal abuse is growing," said the source.

North Korea's Central Chosun TV was quoted as saying "No one can predict what might happen," threatening the South with the possibility of all-out war. But the source‘s account is evidence that in a reality dictated by deteriorating economic circumstances soldierly discipline is receding in a military that can scarcely feed itself.

"In wartime conditions soldiers who desert their base can be passed over to the military courts," the source added. Those found guilty could be executed by firing squad.
Posted by:Steve White

#14  I'd understood the real fear from North Korea was an artillery barrage that could smash Seaul. Food and logistics probably wouldn't make a difference in that case because North Korea would not be playing to win.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2010-12-14 22:12  

#13  crosspatch,
a PORKLIGHT strike?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2010-12-14 19:17  

#12  North Korea has a number of the aircraft with] wooden propellers and canvas wings on their variants (the Y-5 version license-built in China) giving them a low radar cross-section, and therefore a limited degree of "stealth". In a war they could possibly be used to parachute or deliver special forces troops behind enemy lines for sabotage operations.
Posted by: tu3031   2010-12-14 19:04  

#11  From what I've read, one of the North's plans is to load up AN-2's with Special Forces teams, fly them on one way missions as far south as they can go, and let the Spec Ops guys raise hell in the rear.
Posted by: tu3031   2010-12-14 19:01  

#10  An-2-2008-Peenemunde-tail

The feared AN-2 fighter plane. If you keep close to the ground, you may have some measure of stealth., with a little bit of luck.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2010-12-14 18:45  

#9  Didn't the Great Wall of China work very well until the Mongols figured out to bribe the guards along the wall with shoes?

Heard that somewhere.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2010-12-14 16:13  

#8  Just one point of information:

The AN-2 "fighter planes" are really bi-planes designed for crop dusting and transport. They are not armed.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2010-12-14 15:35  

#7  I hate to be a bubble buster here but this is not news. NK soldiers routinely scavenge villages and go awol. Whats interesting is that we are hearing about it from an open source.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge    2010-12-14 15:22  

#6  Even if they use their nooks, I don't take the Nork nook threat as being able to do anything more than just give the Skors a bloody nose just before getting eviscerated in return. Even if they actually can deliver them, and they actually do go "pop".

What has me wondering is whether or not Kimmie knows that nukes aren't worth a d@mn. Have his underlings been feeding him crap about how mighty his nukes are? Is Kimmie aware that he has wimpy nukes, but is just blowing smoke so that all his subjects think he is to be feared?
Posted by: gorb   2010-12-14 13:15  

#5  Or just pick a time when the breeze blows from the South most of the time and have a month long barbecue just South of the DMZ.

Posted by: crosspatch   2010-12-14 13:14  

#4  Don't use loudspeakers, custom video players with the same message and views of daily life in South Korea could be produced by the South for very little and dropped by UAV with offers of employment if they sit out the envelopment.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2010-12-14 10:43  

#3  Makes you wonder what would happen if the South used loudspeakers to broadcast: "Surrender and you will be fed and kept warm. If you do not fire your weapons, you will not be fired upon."
Posted by: Anonymoose   2010-12-14 10:08  

#2  It will be impossible for NORK to wage war. Not only have the grain stores been emptied, but there would not be enough fuel to move equipment. It is destitute.
Posted by: newc   2010-12-14 09:50  

#1  This Artic is seemingly in line with

* GLOBAL TIMES.CN FORUM > DEFECTOR: NORTH KOREA LACKS FUEL TO FIGHT A WAR. Actually, little to no fuel for any kind of War agz the US-ALLIES = ANYBODY, BUT DO HAVE ENUFF FOR PARADES + PASS INSPECTIONS, ETC. MINOR THINGYS???

On the one side, this could be embarassing for Pyongyang as in Histoire', WHOLE ARMIES + LARGE UNITS, GROUPS HAD DESERTED AT OR NEAR THE MOMENT OF BATTLE WHEN THEY SAY WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WAS EATING + DRINKING.

OTOH, ARMY STARVATION = may induce the DRPK GOVT to resort to UNILATER OR PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE METHODS ASAP INSTEAD OF PUTTING OFF.

IMO the longer the DPRK ARMED FROCES SUFFERS from these kinds of internal problems the greater the likelihood that KIMMIE WILL PRIORITIZE A CONVENTIONAL MILSTRIKE OR NUCSTRIKE AGZ A MAJOR US-ONLY TARGET, OR ELSE A USFK, USFJ TARGET [also read, UNO Offices], NOT THE SOKORS.

IOW, THE DANGER FACTOR FOR THE "USS HOLY/MIGHTY GEORGE" CVN + AIR BASES JUST ESCALATED HIGHER.

Even for GUAM. e.g. Andersen AFB, as the DPRK has stated it has LRBMS that can hit us???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-12-14 00:59  

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