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India-Pakistan
Your rape culture is not my religion
2011-07-09
[Dawn] That reporting a rape is an arduous ordeal is a truth that resounds globally. When braving for police investigations, enumerating the ordeal in court and damaging stereotypical media representations become a norm then the argument for a pellucid approach becomes preemptory.

In 2006, a much-heated debate on the Hudood Laws revealed the anatomy of rape, conflicting legalities involving misinterpretations of Shariah Laws and the deeply engrained distorted public perceptions. For those who followed the debate, there should be no qualms in admitting that it made the inherent flaws in interpretations of the law and the systematic distortion of a society sensitive to violence and abuse evident.

The women protection bill implemented later that year made it possible for a woman to convict on the basis of forensic and medical evidence. Aimed at encouraging women to report the crime, which was deterred due to the farcical 'four witness' rule enforced by the Hudood ordinance, the act has been strongly opposed by Jamaat-i-Islami, whose activists and leaders continue to lobby against the act.

In a recent interview to a local news channel, Syed Munawar Hassan
... The funny-looking Amir of the Pak Jamaat-e-Islami. He joined the National Students Federation (NSF), a lefty student body, and was elected its President in 1959. He came into contact with the Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba (IJT) Pakistan and studied the writings of Mawlana Syed Abul Ala Maududi, The Great Apostasizer. As a result, he joined IJT in 1960 and soon he was elected as President of its University of Bloody Karachi Unit and member of the Central Executive Council. He was Assistant Secretary General of Jama'at-e-Islami Pakistan in 1992-93, and became Secretary General in 1993. After years of holding Qazi's camel he was named Amir when the old man stepped down in 2009...
of Jamaat-i-Islaami had the following to say:
Anchor: Why did you vehemently oppose the women protection act?

Munawar Hasan: Women protection act was not aimed at protecting women instead it is meant to promote vulgarity and obscenity in the society.

Anchor: What is the basis of your allegations?

Munawar Hasan: On the basis of which we opposed the act.

Anchor: The fundamental purpose of the women protection act was (is) to provide women with the right to file cases on the basis of circumstantial and forensic evidence, making convictions of rape easier. Where is the obscenity in that?

Munawar Hasan: This bill has been part of law for years, how has that affected the rights of women in Pakistan? What is the one issue that can be pointed out as a success of this law?

Anchor: One blaringly obvious problem with the Hudood law was the need to present four witnesses in order to convict a rapist, failure to do so resulted in the arrest of the woman on charges of confession to adultery, that was the main issue.

Munawar Hasan: What is the problem in that?

Anchor: The problem is this sir, that according to the 2003 national commission status of women report 80 per cent women were forced to languish in jails because of inability to produce witnesses of their rape.

Munawar Hasan: The objective of Islam is to discourage such acts, no one can be shameless enough to commit such an act in the presence of four people. Making it impossible to prove such acts, therefore the whole idea is to discourage bringing such acts into public light. Discouraging it to the extent that the act is never quoted. If such a crime occurs and since there are no witnesses than both men and women are suppose to keep it under wraps and not discuss it in public.

Anchor: Sir, are you suggesting that a woman should stay silent after she is raped? That she should not report the crime?

Munawar Hasan: I am saying she should keep quite if she has no witnesses. If she has witnesses than she should present them.

Anchor: What kind of an argument is that? A woman is raped and she has to look for witnesses to prove the crime?

Munawar Hasan: Argue with the Quran and not me.
Posted by:Fred

#10  The Feminazis of NOW's silence is deafening.
Posted by: Omorong Sleater8358   2011-07-09 17:26  

#9  The inadvertent truth was spoken:

"Argue with the Quran and not me."

Exactly. It is the Quran and Islam that are evil and wrong.
Posted by: Blackbeard Unaith1422   2011-07-09 13:18  

#8  Blasphemy, I has it.
Hover Cat Gonna Kill 12th Well Profit!

Kittuahz gonna take it under the house a merry make.


Posted by: S   2011-07-09 09:22  

#7  Anchor: Sir, are you suggesting that a woman should stay silent after she is raped? That she should not report the crime?

Munawar Hasan: I am saying she should keep quite if she has no witnesses. If she has witnesses than she should present them.

Caveman mentality!
Posted by: Paul D   2011-07-09 09:04  

#6  Munawar Hasan: Argue with the Quran and not me.

Munawar Hasan: Commit blasphemy. I dare you.
Posted by: Eohippus Phater7165   2011-07-09 07:58  

#5  "You shall not force your girls to commit prostitution, seeking the materials of this world, if they wish to be chaste."

Don't force 'em -- but if they wanna be ho's, that's cool!
Posted by: Scooter McGruder   2011-07-09 05:10  

#4  Anyone who rejects faith, all his work will be in vain, and in the Hereafter he will be with the losers.

Good stuff, right out of LOLcatKoran.
Posted by: S   2011-07-09 02:52  

#3  Sorry: the CAPITAL LETTERS are not mine. I'm not a capital letters sort of guy.
Posted by: Secret Master   2011-07-09 00:50  

#2  Munawar Hasan: Argue with the Quran and not me.

Does the Koran permit rape?

Maybe:

"And all married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT those captives whom your right hand possesses. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that you seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery..." (4:24)

Ibn Kathir, the most prominent of all Quran interpreters, has this to say in regards to verse 4:24:

"The Ayah (verses) means Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess.), you are prohibited from marrying women who are already married, except those whom your right hands possess) except those whom you acquire through war, for you are allowed such women after making sure they are not pregnant. Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah (verse) was revealed, Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess). Accordingly, we had sexual relations with these women." (Alternate translation can be: as a result of these verses, their (Infidels) wives have become lawful for us) This is the wording collected by At-Tirmidhi An-Nasa'i, Ibn Jarir and Muslim in his Sahih."

Maybe not.

[5:5] Â…Â….. You shall maintain CHASTITY, not committing adultery, nor taking secret lovers. Anyone who rejects faith, all his work will be in vain, and in the Hereafter he will be with the losers.

[24:30] Tell the believing men that they shall subdue their eyes (and not stare at the women), and to maintain their CHASTITY. This is purer for them. GOD is fully Cognizant of everything they do.

[2:191] Â…Â….. OPPRESSION is worse than murder.

[24:33] Â…Â…..You shall not force your girls to commit prostitution, seeking the materials of this world, if they wish to be chaste. If anyone forces them, then GOD, seeing that they are forced, is Forgiver, Merciful.
Posted by: Secret Master   2011-07-09 00:48  

#1  That reporting a rape is an arduous ordeal is a truth that resounds globally

Clearly, the writer properly appreciates Jane Austin. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife    2011-07-09 00:46  

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