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Pakistan uninterested in eradicating U.S.-mapped militant camps In N. Wazoo
2011-07-12
The U.S. has compiled a wide body of intelligence on the locations of militant training camps in Pakistan, but has been unable to persuade Islamabad to shut them down, current and former officials say.

A former senior administration official said the biggest concern is a network of camps in North Waziristan from which the Taliban and al Qaeda-linked groups train and recruit fighters, as well as build improvised explosive devices (IEDs).

Some of the camps are associated with the Haqqani Network, an insurgent group that carries out attacks on NATO troops from its hide-outs in North Waziristan and which is widely believed to have links to Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency.

Persuading Pakistan to crack down in North Waziristan is taking on added importance. NATO plans in coming months to step up its counterinsurgency operations in Afghanistan’s Regional Command East — or RC-East, as it is called — after ridding the southern region around Kandahar of many Taliban safe havens.

The new war in the east could be hamstrung if the Taliban and al Qaeda-linked terrorist groups are allowed to simply cross back into North WaziristanÂ’s safe havens.
Posted by:trailing wife

#6  argued that iff the US can't secure its own borders wid Mexico, how can it criticize + threaten Pakistan, a country wid limited resources than the US,

Y'know, JosephM, if the jihadis that Pakistan can't/won't control only bothered their hosts, I would quite agree. Unfortunately, not only do they conduct jihad attacks against India, Britain, Scandanavia, and elsewhere, but they have attempted repeated attacks against the U.S., and the ISI -- a formal branch of the Pakistani army -- provides training, funding, materiel, planning, and even direct orders for some of the attacks, eg. the Mumbai attack.

The comparison isn't merely apples and oranges, but apples and Siberian tigers.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-07-12 23:59  

#5  FYI WAFF POSTER = argued that iff the US can't secure its own borders wid Mexico, how can it criticize + threaten Pakistan, a country wid limited resources than the US, for not doing enough wid the latter's own borders vee the Militants + Afghanistan? Ditto for so-called "HOMEGROWN TERROR" = rise in domestic Jihadis + calls for Sharia widin the US itself, as Pak's MADRASSAS continue to suppor Radical Islam = Local, Regional MilTerr Groups ala huge numbers of fighting manpower + continue to receive $$$ from US ally SAUDI ARABIA + OTHER ME COUNTRIES???

Hard to argue wid his points.

* ION DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > CHINA PLEDGES SUPPORT FOR PAKISTAN IN WAKE OF US MILITARY AID CUT.

* SAME > [Pak Mil, Intel Officials] US WANTED PERMANENT PRESENCE in [all of] PAKISTAN'S AIRBASES | PAKISTAN: REJECTION OF US DEMAND FOR PERMANENT PRESENCE ON PAK BASES LED TO AID CUT.

* DEFENCE FORUM INDIA [paraph]> WW2: CIA [OSS = predecessor] PLANNED JEWISH STATE IN INDIAN-HELD KASHMIR, RIFTS BETWEEN CHINA + ISLAMIC STATES FOR BENEFIT OF US + INDIA.

1944.

[BELUSHI + not-1944 "1941" Movie here].

* INDIAN DEFENCE FORUM > CANNOT GIVE PAKISTAN "BLANK CHEQUE", SAYS US [Deputy SecState for Mgt + Resources Thomas Nides].
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-07-12 23:29  

#4  not while they are useful in their "extended strategic hand" in Afghanistan and against India in J-K. We should bomb a few of these to let them know the game has changed
Posted by: Frank G   2011-07-12 20:41  

#3  have the pakis ever been interetsed in closing these camps?
Posted by: chris   2011-07-12 20:13  

#2  Whoa, CHRISTINA APPLEGATE = KELLY "THE HELL YOU SAY" BUNDY is five for five this month, + still going strong.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-07-12 20:12  

#1  I don't know if these camps are the same as in this article from 2005, but it's interesting to speculate...
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-07-12 15:04  

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