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Home Front: Politix
White House sees 'momentum' for debt deal
2011-07-23
The White House said Thursday it saw "momentum" toward a deal to avert a disastrous early August debt default, but denied media reports that a compromise with top politicians may be imminent.

President Barack B.O. Obama huddled for nearly two hours at the White House with top Senate and House Democrats unsettled by news accounts he was close to a broad agreement with Republican House Speaker John It is not pronounced 'Boner!' Boehner.
... the occasionally weepy leader of House Republicans...

"We believe there is momentum behind the idea of massive tax increases a balanced approach to a significant agreement," front man Jay Carney told news hounds with time running short before an August 2 deadline to raise the dollar 14.3 trillion US debt ceiling.

But Carney rejected a New York Times
...which still proudly displays Walter Duranty's Pulitzer prize...
report, citing anonymous congressional officials, which said aides to Obama had started informing key politicians that a deal was in the works with Boehner.

"There is no deal. We are not close to a deal," said the front man. "There is no progress to report, but we continue to work on getting the most significant deficit-reduction package possible."

The Times said the accord would include cuts to government health and retirement benefits programs dear to Democrats as well as new revenues -- a blend in line with how the White House has previously defined a "balanced" deal -- generated through closing loopholes and ending tax breaks.

Such an agreement would likely anger Democrats who pledged to protect the US social safety net as well as Republicans who vowed to oppose increasing revenues, endangering its prospects for passage in the divided Congress.
The Pubs are not opposed to increasing revenues. Get Americans back to work and the new tax revenues from that would be welcome. The Pubs are opposed to increasing taxes on the people who are still working.
"The decisions we've got to make right now are tough ones, and nobody likes them. I mean it's always easier to give people more benefits and cut their taxes than it is to raise more revenue and reduce benefits," the president told National Public Radio (NPR) in an interview to be broadcast Friday.

The National Journal, a publication that covers US politics, said the White House and top House Republican leaders were discussing a 10-year, dollar 3-trillion plan to cut the deficit while raising the debt ceiling.

A senior Democratic aide later described media reports of a looming deal as overblown and said it would take another few days to hammer out a compromise from three deficit-cutting options he described as small, medium, and large.

Boehner's office also denied the New York Times report, with front man Michael Steel saying that "while we are keeping the lines of communication open, there are no 'deal' and no progress to report."

Washington hit its debt ceiling on May 16 and has used spending and accounting adjustments, as well as higher-than-expected tax receipts, to pay its bills and continue operating normally. But it can only do so until August 2.

Finance and business leaders have warned failure to raise the US debt ceiling by then would send shock waves through the world economy, while Obama has predicted a default would trigger economic "Armageddon."

China, the largest US creditor, has twice warned that Washington must protect investor interests, while ratings agencies Moody's and Standard & Poor's have said the sterling Triple-A US debt rating was in danger of a downgrade.

Word of a deal came after Boehner told news hounds that he had braced his restive Republican majority in the House of Representatives for the possibility of having to support a potentially difficult compromise.

Boehner acknowledged that some Republicans would reject any debt-ceiling deal with Obama and his Democratic allies, "but I do not believe that would be anywhere close to the majority."

It would be irresponsible" for Congress and the White House "not to be looking at backup strategies for how to solve this problem," the speaker added.

With time running short, the US Senate was expected to kill, in a procedural vote on Friday, a House-passed Republican plan calling for steep cuts and a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced US budget as the price for a debt ceiling increase.

Obama again praised a plan, crafted by a "Gang of Six" Republican and Democratic senators, to cut the deficit by nearly dollar 4 trillion dollars while ending some tax breaks as a sign of cross-party cooperation.

And politicians were discussing a plan crafted by Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
... the charismatic senator-for-life from Nevada, currently majority leader ...
and Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell that would let the president raise the debt ceiling by dollar 2.5 trillion in three increments through 2012 with just Democratic votes.
Posted by:Fred

#10  "You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they have done everything else"

I think I got that word for word.

“Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.”

Winston Churchill
I just love throwing some Churchill at O.
Posted by: Dale   2011-07-23 20:42  

#9  Obama is trying to act presidential, like he is the only adult in the room, and like he is not playing politics. However, is trying buy time by kicking the can down the road until after the 2012 elections. He is the worst, most ineffectual, least qualified President we have ever had. I can't believe the Democrats don't bail on him like they did with Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: JohnQC   2011-07-23 19:08  

#8  I never heard of it. Must have picked up my strange ideas from the Zeitgeist. I will check it out.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2011-07-23 17:21  

#7  Anguper Hupomosing9418, have you read this book?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2011-07-23 15:48  

#6  Anguper Hupomosing, Yup yup.
That also has crossed my mind.
For were that to come to be, they would keep their weapons, but know with whom to use them on after being forsaken. I would trade my cloak as well.
Posted by: newc   2011-07-23 14:49  

#5  That's all there is to it.
You left out the Worst Case Scenario: US keeps spending like a maniac, borrowing ever vaster sums at low interest rates, until lenders wise up, and/or interest rates spike (same thing ultimately), at which point US Treasury paper gets very difficult to sell or impossible to service (same thing ultimately), followed by a slashed credit rating, not the biggest deal compared to the associated full-bore crash of the US and world economy. At that point US troops in Afghanistan will have to replicate the Anabasis and march to an ocean shore close to home, where what is left of the US Navy can sail them home. I sure hope the Navy has stocked up on wooden oars and hardtack.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2011-07-23 14:34  

#4  AUG 15th is when the interest is due and there will not be enough to go around. Bring it on. Starve this POS government.

If you raise debt ceiling, you lose credit rating.
If you take long term cuts and keep the debt ceiling, you lose credit rating.
If you cut spending and cut now and balance budge now, you may keep your credit rating.

That's all there is to it.

Ohh, and Mr President, you SUCK.
Posted by: newc   2011-07-23 12:49  

#3  I'd suggest having some cash on hand August 1st
Posted by: Frank G   2011-07-23 10:49  

#2  There's the deal"Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell that would let the president raise the debt ceiling by dollar 2.5 trillion in three increments through 2012 with just Democratic votes".
They go home first part of August for vacation. Some may already have left. Gold and silver can only go up. So after the 2012 election this will all come back much worse than it is now. Tax revenues will drop, unemployment up, yep the "momentum" is there to pass the buck. What I like is the media will take the biggest hit. No advertising revenue. $5000 dollar incentive to hire new people is gone in first month due to Tax/social programs. So small business will sit it out and hope for better times. Socialism at its best. Things will not improve as long as this group is in power. The long winter is here.
Posted by: Dale   2011-07-23 07:45  

#1  How about no new negotiations unless televised and online live. Now why would anyone object to that? /rhetorical question.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2011-07-23 07:41  

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