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Carter against US veto of Paleo state
2011-09-20
WASHINGTON: Former US President Jimmy Carter has called on Washington not to veto a Palestinian application for the UN recognition of their state in the Security Council.

"If I were president, I'd be very glad to see the Palestinians have a nation recognized by the United Nations," Carter told National Public Radio on Sunday. "There's no downside to it."
Shaddup, ya bigoted old coot.
"There's been basically a 34-year period of unfulfilled expectations by the Palestinians that Israel would carry out the promises it made to me, and to Egypt, and to the Palestinians and to the rest of the world.

"They've not been willing to do so, and they still occupy Palestine and they've built ever more settlements and the Palestinians do not have any more rights, human rights and political rights that they had when I was president -- in ancient times," said the former US president.

When asked how this move would actually help the Palestinians get closer to having an actual independent state, Carter said: "The only alternative is the maintenance of its status quo.

"Every day, as you well know, the Israelis are building more and more settlements, confiscating more and more of Palestinian land and depriving the Palestinians of their basic human and political rights and that's a status quo that's unacceptable to the Palestinian people and should be unacceptable to the rest of the world."
And the downside is...
Reminded that Israel is "vehemently" opposed to this and has asked the US to back Israel on this issue, Carter was asked what motivation or reason would President Obama have not to veto the vote when he is up for re-election next year?

Carter admitted such a move "could have adverse effects, perhaps, on his political future.
Not because Bambi would lose the Jewish vote, mind you, just the sensible American vote...
Actually, President Barack Hussein Obama continues to fall in polls of Jewish voters, just like former President Carter did. In NY-9, it was the Jews who voted in the Catholic Republican. The Dems are becoming quite concerned.
"I faced the same prospect when I was president;
...when inflation, stagflation and malaise ruled the land...
I talked the Israelis into giving up the occupation of the Sinai region to Egypt, in a peace treaty that came six months after the Camp David accords."

Asked if he thought this UN vote for nonmember status would really change anything for the Palestinians, Carter said: "Yes."

"Let's just assume that in the General Assembly there is a vote following a veto in the Security Council by the US, the status of Palestine will be almost identical to what it is with the Vatican now, .
I've never heard of the Vatican launching rocket attacks into Rome.
and what it has been, on an interim basis, with new coming nations in the past. "So it won't be a full member of the UN, but it will have certain privileges of membership in international organizations."

Finally, he was asked if he thought if the US will be on the wrong side of history on this. He said: "I believe so," and added that "the United States' influence among the Palestinians and inside Israel is at the lowest point it's been in the last 60 years."
There's a reason for that...
Posted by:Steve White

#10  I'm thinking of starting a pool on whether his face will fall off like the scene in the 3rd Indy movie.
Posted by: Charles   2011-09-20 18:56  

#9  Die already
Posted by: Durnham Freebody   2011-09-20 17:51  

#8  This pill is hard to swallow.
Posted by: jack salami   2011-09-20 17:04  

#7  Well somethings up. New directional EFPs and multiple EFP's are said to be in Palestinian hands. Then in Janes also they mention leaflets of a "previously unknown group Al-Qaeda in the Sinai Peninsula were distributed in Rafah, a town on the border of Egypt and the Gaza Strip. Well if Carter is for it then it must be bad for Israel."There's no downside to it" come on, what are you selling.
Posted by: Dale   2011-09-20 12:46  

#6  Has there ever been a dictator, murderer, or terrorist Jimmie didn't just *love* with his whole entire heart?

Didn't think so.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2011-09-20 12:05  

#5  After all what the Pals have been doing has been an act of war and if they were a nation Israel would have had a case long ago to destroy them and most would have to support them or fear the prescident.

I'm afraid that what you'll find is they will support the Palestinians against Israel every time, no matter what. Remember, there are far more Arab and Muslim countries in the UN than there are Jewish. There are far more dictatorships than there are democracies. They don't care about right or wrong. They just want to get rid of the Juice so they can turn that country into a dysfunctional cat box just like all the other Arab countries.

jimmuh is a despicable little man and a disgrace to the United States.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2011-09-20 11:41  

#4  from the same Asshole who swapped spit with Arafat
Posted by: Frank G   2011-09-20 10:45  

#3  Is there anybody who actually gives a shit about Jimmuh's opinion? Anyone? Bueller?
Posted by: Guillibaldo Hatrack1304   2011-09-20 10:43  

#2  I've never really seen a downside to giving them a seat. After all what the Pals have been doing has been an act of war and if they were a nation Israel would have had a case long ago to destroy them and most would have to support them or fear the prescident.

Yet, I can't side with Carter easily. He's been wrong on just about every issue my entire life so I have to believe I've been missing something. So I guess I'm undecided at best now.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2011-09-20 10:11  

#1  "Hey, you kids!"
Posted by: Anonymoose   2011-09-20 09:10  

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