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Africa North
Stunned by bloodshed, Egyptians torn over army
2011-10-17
CAIRO: An army crackdown on a protest that killed more than 20 Christians has not only stunned Egyptians, it has left them with deeply torn feelings toward the force seen as the protector of the nation. Even supporters of the ruling military are grappling with the question of how the bloodshed could have happened.
Oh stop. They're 'stunned'? What's so stunning about an Arab army mistreating its citizens? This has been going since the first of the Pharaohs, so you'd think the people of the Nile would have figured the drill out by now. The army isn't there to protect them, the army is there to protect whoever is in charge.
The deaths a week ago have deepened mistrust of the military among the "revolutionary" sector, the politically naive active liberal and leftist activists who have been leading protests against the generals' rule for months. They have become increasingly vocal in calls for the army to step aside.
That's usually what leftist activists demand, at least until they take control of the army, as Trotsky found out way back in early 1918...
A broader sector of the public has been thrown into shocked confusion. Many Egyptians view the military as the last bastion of stability -- a force "made up of our own sons," as many often say -- and tend to trust it to handle the transition toward a democratic system.
Again, that just has to be a line some smart-aleck Egyptian interpreter fed a gullible western reporter. The army has been suppressing the people for the last half-century: for Hosni, for Anwar before him, and for Gamal before him. When did the mighty Egyptian army decide to fight for 'democracy'?
So images of army troops wildly running over protesters with armored vehicles have jolted them.
Posted by:Steve White

#6  Fear not, I'm sure they'll turn to radical islam to fill the void, sooner or later.
It always seems to come back to that. Expect some mental gymnastics to rationalize it all.
Posted by: bigjim-CA   2011-10-17 13:47  

#5  he is now afraid to join protests, fearing chaos or violence by security forces.


Gee, someone got the message. Tyrants will out.
Posted by: AlanC   2011-10-17 13:01  

#4  "We are stunned. Please send us more rapeable reporters."
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2011-10-17 08:16  

#3  But ... but ...this was supposed to be The Arab Spring, sweetness and light, a real democracy, not like the reactionary/centrist/radical version controlled by Wall Street.

Not unlike the vision of those who voted for hope-and-change in 2008 and became disillusioned in 2010.
Posted by: Bobby   2011-10-17 07:42  

#2  A cleric delivering his Friday sermon in a state-run mosque in the Mediterranean city of Alexandria warned Christians against demanding a new law to ease restrictions on building churches and accused them of seeking foreign protection. Another cleric urged Egyptians to protect the military against protesters. The Muslim Brotherhood said now is not the time for Christians to press demands.

My now: the Brotherhood really are working the moderate angle these days, aren't they? They sound like the DNC.
Posted by: Secret Master   2011-10-17 02:16  

#1  If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2011-10-17 01:00  

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