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Africa North
Gadhafi's body stuffed into shopping center freezer
2011-10-21
MISRATA, Libya (AP) -- Moammar Gadhafi's blood-streaked body was stashed in a commercial freezer at a shopping center Friday as Libyans tried to keep it away from angry crowds as they figure out where to bury the longtime dictator.
How about at sea? At least the crabs would find value in him that way.
You'd think we could help. We know Binny's GPS coordinates, and we have transport...
The makeshift provisions for the corpse reflected the disorganization and confusion that has surrounded Gadhafi's death. Accounts of how he died after being captured by revolutionary fighters remained contradictory, and the top U.N. rights official raised concerns he was shot to death in custody.
Boo hoo.
His burial had been planned for Friday, in accordance with Islamic traditions calling for quick interment. But the interim government delayed it, saying the circumstances of his death still had to be determined. Information Minister Mahmoud Shammam also said authorities are "debating right now what the best place is to bury him."
How about in the gulf right inside the Line of Death?
An AP correspondent saw the body at the shopping center in the coastal city of Misrata, home of the fighters who killed the ousted leader a day earlier in his hometown of Sirte.

The body, stripped to the waist and wearing beige trousers, was laid on a bloodied mattress on the floor of an emptied-out room-sized freezer where restaurants and stores in the center normally keep perishables. A bullet hole was visible on the left side of his head - with the bullet still lodged in his head, according to the presiding doctor - and in the center of his chest and stomach. His hair was matted and dried blood streaks his arms and head.

Outside the shopping center, hundreds of civilians from Misrata jostled to get inside for a peek at the body, shouting "God is great" and "We want to see the dog."
Dogs everywhere are taking offense ....

Bashir Ali, a commander from the Misrata military operations room, said the burial would be in a secret location to avoid revenge attacks. "Gadhafi hurt a lot of people and many will want to find his body for revenge, so we need to make sure he is not found," he said.

The 69-year-old Gadhafi was captured wounded but alive, and there have been contradictory accounts of how and when he received his fatal wounds. New video emerged Friday of a bloodied Gadhafi being taunted and beaten by the fighters who pulled him out of a drainage tunnel following clashes in his hometown of Sirte on Thursday.
Drainage tunnel, spider hole, I'm beginning to see a pattern here.
"More details are needed to ascertain whether he was killed in some form of fighting or was executed after his capture," said Rupert Colville, a spokesman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, calling the images of Gadhafi's last moments very disturbing.
Involving months of meetings in five-star hotels, catered fine dining, the usual.
Gadhafi's capture came when revolutionary fighters overwhelmed him and his last die-hard loyalists in Sirte, seizing control of the regime's last major bastion after a heavily fought, weekslong siege. Exact details of his final hours remain unclear.
All I have is one question: Where were his Fembots?
According to most accounts from fighters on the ground and their commanders, Gadhafi was in a convoy trying to flee, when NATO airstrikes hit two of the vehicles. Then revolutionary forces moved in and clashed with the loyalists with Gadhafi for several hours. Gadhafi and his bodyguards fled their cars and took refuge in a nearby drainage tunnel. Fighters pursued and clashed with them, and in the end, Gadhafi emerged from tunnel and was grabbed by fighters.

New footage posted on Facebook shows the moments when Gadhafi was dragged by revolutionary fighters up the hill to their vehicles. The young men screaming "Moammar, you dog!" beat the confused-looking Gadhafi, who wipes at blood covering the left side of his head and neck and left shoulder.

Gadhafi gestures to the young men to be patient, and says "What's going on?" as he wipes fresh blood from his temple and glances at his palm. A young fighter later is shown carrying a boot and screaming, "This is Moammar's shoe! This is Moammar's shoe! Victory! Victory!"

The next point that most accounts agree upon is that Gadhafi died about 30-40 minutes later as he was being taken in an ambulance to Misrata. A coroners report said he bled to death from a shot to the head, and he also had shots to the chest and belly. Accounts have been confused, however, over where and how those fatal shots were suffered.

Most commanders and fighters who were at the scene with whom The Associated Press has spoken say that when he was captured, Gadhafi had already suffered the wounds that would lead to his death. That would mean that in the video, Gadhafi would have a bullet imbedded in his head, another in his chest and a third near his belly button. Yet, he is seen upright, talking and has the strength to struggle back, and there is no blood on his chest or belly. At one point, his shirt is pulled up to his chest, but no belly wound is visible.

Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril gave a different account Thursday, saying the fatal wounds were suffered later, when Gadhafi had been taken to the ambulance. As it set off for Misrata, the vehicle was caught in crossfire between revolutionaries and Gadhafi loyalists.

Information Minister Mahmoud Shammam mirrored this version Friday, saying the wounds came later, after his capture. "It seems like the bullet was a stray and it could have come from the revolutionaries or the loyalists," Shammam said. "The problem is everyone around the event is giving his own story."

But other fighters, commanders and witnesses have not spoken of any such crossfire or further clashes. Siraq al-Hamali, a 21- year-old fighter, told AP that he rode in the vehicle carrying Gadhafi as it left Sirte and did not mention coming under fire. He said by the time they reached a field hospital 20 miles (30 kilometers) outside Sirte, Gadhafi had died of wounds he already had.

"I really wanted him alive and everybody did, but he was destined to die and we could do nothing to change that," he said. "He won't be missed, and that's all for the best and let's get on with our lives."

One of Gadhafi's sons, Muatassim, was also killed in Sirte, but the fate of Gadhafi's one-time heir apparent Seif al-Islam was unclear. Some Libyan officials said he had been wounded and was being held in a hospital in Zlitan. But Shammam said Friday that Seif al-Islam's whereabouts were not confirmed, leaving open the possibility he escaped.

Many Libyans awoke after a night of jubilant celebration and celebratory gunfire with hope for the future but also concern that their new rulers, the National Transitional Council, might repeat the mistakes of the past.
Try socialism. It's worked so well for everyone so far.
Khaled Almslaty, a 42-year-old clothing vendor in Tripoli, said he wished Gadhafi had been captured alive.

"But I believe he got what he deserved because if we prosecuted him for the smallest of his crimes, he would be punished by death," he said. "Now we hope the NTC will accelerate the formation of a new government and ... won't waste time on irrelevant conflicts and competing for authority and positions."

Thousands of people converged for Friday prayers on Martrys' Square, formerly known as Green Square and the site from which Gadhafi made many defiant speeches trying to rally support as the uprising against him turned into a civil war.

One group of men danced and hoisted the country's new tricolor flag, chanting slogans against Syrian President Bashar Assad, who also faces an uprising against his rule as part of the Arab Spring that has also seen the leaders of Egypt and Tunisia ousted.

"It's your turn Bashar, zenga, zenga, dar, dar," they chanted.
And now we have the Song of Death ....
It went viral on YouTube in February, written by an Israeli.
"Zenga, zenga, dar, dar" is Arabic for "alley by alley, house by house," a phrase used by Gadhafi in his last months in power, referring to how his forces would hunt down those who rose up against him.

Women, who wore headscarves and prayed in a separate section, hoisted a banner that said, "It's a new morning without the colonel," using Gadhafi's military designation.

The governing National Transitional Council said interim leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil will formally declare liberation on Saturday in the eastern city of Benghazi, where the revolution began in mid-February. The NTC has said it will form a new interim government within a month of liberation and will hold elections within eight months.
Hopefully the Islamic Brotherhood won't hold more than 50% of the votes by the time that happens.
Posted by:gorb

#14  wr, a good piece of the problem was that President Obama was in charge of executing the Obama doctrine. Hopefully his successor will do better in applying it, starting January 2012. And while it had no effect, we at Rantburg did support Iran's attempted people's revolution.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-10-21 23:56  

#13  When the Iranian people recently stood up to Dinner Jacket the "Obama Doctrine" and NATO did not support them. Just like the "Obama Doctrine" will accept the same Islamic Radical regime in Egypt and Libya, gobacho.
Posted by: wr   2011-10-21 20:28  

#12  Nah, they'll be fewer radical Irans, just as long as President Romney uses the 'Obama Doctrine' to whack any third-world thug who displeases us...
Posted by: Steve White   2011-10-21 18:05  

#11  #3 - No one is capable of thinking that far ahead, especially here at "pass the pop-corn" Bloodyburg. What is going to come out of all of this is many more radical Irans. The Obama regime ceased using the term WOT and is now ingaged in supporting Radical Islamic Reveloution which is giving birth to a monster far more senister to America than Qadahfy or Mubarrac could ever be for our future generations (our children) to have to deal with.
Posted by: wr   2011-10-21 17:40  

#10   I'll have a #7 with extra humus, a Coke and a frozen fruit loop.

Just don't order the duck.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2011-10-21 17:26  

#9  "#2 top U.N. rights official raised concerns he was shot to death in custody"

Me too.

I'd rather they shot him before taking him into custody.

I'm sure that's what the UN clown official meant....
Posted by: Barbara   2011-10-21 17:16  

#8  #2 top U.N. rights official raised concerns he was shot to death in custody

Another good reason not to fund the U.N.
Posted by: JohnQC   2011-10-21 16:39  

#7  I'll have a #7 with extra humus, a Coke and a frozen fruit loop.
Posted by: DarthVader   2011-10-21 16:18  

#6  "We put him in the 'G' section of the freezer, just after Fish sticks and Fudgecicles, but before Grape Juice Concentrate."
Posted by: Anonymoose   2011-10-21 16:01  

#5  When they found Vinnie Carbone in the freezer, it took 'em two days to thaw him out to do the autopsy...
Posted by: Henry Hill   2011-10-21 15:45  

#4  He was a ruthless man who died a ruthless death, piss on him.

What I do not appreciate is the lines of bullshit the big names are selling. The official lines touted by some big name tv news was laughable...found, then caught in a crossfire, then died on way to hospital, f@n kidding me? They pulled him out of a sewer pipe, realized what was going to happen, turned away and pop.

And the pentagon guy saying they had no idea about the convoy..I mean, need 2 lawyers to blast a guy digging a IED but a convoy of however many vehicles bugging out of Sirte and they are shocked that Daffy was in there, give me a break. Which two vehicles, the first then the last? Team Rebels just happened to advance?

Professional US soldiers maybe scratch a knuckle pulling Hussein out of a hole, this is the rest of the world. Daffy is likely lucky the women didn't get ahold of him.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2011-10-21 15:17  

#3  The rebels, dedicated as they are, are not much better than a semi organized rabble, IMHO. The could not have done the revolution without help from NATO. It is good that Daffy is dead, but we are talking about an undisciplined mob, and that is a situation ripe for takeover by Islamic radical elements.

Say what you want about Bush, he did go to the Congress and the UN (pee be upon them) for the OK. O did neither and congress just collectively sat there and said nothing.

So O takes what he can get away with and congress shirks its responsibilities under the Constitution. A very bad precedent and a very bad president.

And, of course, the most dangerous adversary in the ME is Iran, and O does nothing. And nothing is done to address Syria, or the Norks. O is after low hanging fruit for a diversion from his disastrous domestic policies.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2011-10-21 15:00  

#2  top U.N. rights official raised concerns he was shot to death in custody.

Boo fricking hoo! STFU and do something proactive for once
Posted by: Frank G   2011-10-21 14:50  

#1  I vote for "At Sea" ther'll be no shrine that way.
(You just KNOW there's some crazed asshole wanting to REVENGE him, Preferably by blowing up a score of innocents.)
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2011-10-21 14:41  

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