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| France, Britain to abstain from UN vote on Palestine |
| 2011-11-04 |
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| #9 Nope, not always. But it is disingenuous at best to make rather nasty innuendos about Bright Pebbles when he points out that Israel conducts active intelligence gathering within western countries. And I stand by my comments re: the Lavi program, in which I was involved. |
| Posted by: lotp 2011-11-04 19:57 |
| #8 Yes Lotp. We are always stealing american technology---that's why your leading IT companies moving their research centers to Israel, and buying every Israeli start-up they can. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2011-11-04 19:19 |
| #7 And, of course, Israel later sold pretty much the same plane to the Chinese anyway. |
| Posted by: lotp 2011-11-04 18:49 |
| #6 One can be, as I am, a strong supporter of the state of Israel and still acknowledge that Israel spies within western countries quite actively. One reason the Lavi jet was cancelled was due to US pressure. That pressure was applied because, despite the significant tech transfer the US agreed to that went into the Lavi, Israel also managed to steal key secrets regarding the composite materials used in the airframe. The methods employed included hidden adhesives in shoes that collected very tiny particples of compound during a classified tour of a sensitive facility. So please stuff the innuendo and hurt feelings bit. Some of us were there and were supporters of that program. We were not .... happy .... that our support was thus reciprocated. |
| Posted by: lotp 2011-11-04 18:45 |
| #5 Very revealing Pebbles. You should've been more careful. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2011-11-04 18:29 |
| #4 France originally promised to vote for Palestinian statehood, so abstaining is a big step for them... |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2011-11-04 15:17 |
| #3 Either vote yes and defend your position or vote no and defend your position. Abstaining is for politicians who are incapable of leading. The worst leaders aren't the ones who make bad decisions, they are the ones who make no decisions. |
| Posted by: Chemist 2011-11-04 13:46 |
| #2 We saw. Still the more effort Israel spends fighting the pallies, the less Israel can spend on western espionage. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2011-11-04 13:03 |
| #1 We hate you too. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2011-11-04 03:41 |