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App That Would Guide Users Away From High-Crime Areas Proves Controversial
2012-01-19
Oh my goodness, where do I begin?
An in-development Microsoft smart phone app designed to help drivers and pedestrians avoid unsafe neighborhoods is proving controversial among some minority rights groups that find the software potentially discriminatory.
But I like to discriminate against criminals. It's supposed to be a free country, isn't it?
The as-of-yet unnamed product is being referred to as the "Avoid The Ghetto" app by those who are concerned with where it will guide users.
Boy, that sure does sound racist. I wonder who coined it. I don't wonder why.
"I'm going to be up in arms about it if it happens," said Dallas NAACP President Juanita Wallace.
You really ought to take that NAACP off your business card. It doesn't help being associated with a blatantly racist organization.
She's up in arms and it hasn't yet happened. What will she do for an encore?
Wallace spent her afternoon at a rally on Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. and said she felt safe there, but fears the app may project otherwise.
I live in Dallas. Not sure I would feel safe there.
I'm not trying to avoid MLK Blvd, I'm trying to avoid crime-ridden areas. How could you possibly make this connection, you racist bi+ch?
"Can you imagine me not being able to go to MLK Blvd. because my GPS says that's a dangerous crime area? I can't even imagine that," she said.
Yes, I can imagine that. I can also imagine turning it off if I think the statistics are incorrect. And I'm sure that Microslop will include an automatic "update" feature that will allow mistakes to be corrected as time goes on.
Microsoft says the app will use crime statistics to determine what parts of town are to be avoided. But it's unclear where the data will come from and how it will be interpreted.
I wonder if Microslop could set up some kind of credit exchange system where mayors can buy and sell "Crime Credits" to offset negative crime statistics. Of course, Microsoft would get to distribute them to mayors who offer the most generous credit-sale kickbacks and political concessions, on top of getting a percentage of every trade. That wouldn't be unethical, would it?
Microsoft has filed a patent for the app, but the actual product is unnamed and not available yet.
How about the "Never Access Any Criminal Places" button? That ought to get a few panties and handkerchiefs in a bunch.
Opponents like Wallace fear it could hurt minority communities.
Most everything hurts minority communities...
Or help people who don't like shooting people or being shot at.
"It's almost like gerrymandering," she said. "It's stereotyping for sure and without a doubt; I can't emphasize enough, it's discriminatory."
My, aren't we sensitive about some area of town that in all likelihood is far, far away from where you live.
Michael McNally, who was visiting Dallas Tuesday, said an app shouldn't have enough power to label a community.
I'd say the statistics label the community, and the community drives the statistics. Unless the problem-causing elements commute in from far away, of course.
"It may have a high crime problem but have some great cultural, social things you can do there," McNally said.
As long as you or your kids don't wear something other than grey, maybe.
Dallas resident Chris Hurst said it sounds like a good safety tool.
Surely Chris is white. Surely ....
"I'd be all for it because you can never be too safe," he said.
Or too alive.
Tommy Jones, who works downtown, said an app like Microsoft's could hurt a city's economy.
Like the drug trade? Somehow, I can imagine ways in which the app could end up helping the local "economy".
"From a business standpoint, it could be devastating," he said. "Especially in the area of tourism."
"Tourism". Riiight. OK, everyone, from now on we're calling it "tourism". Snicker.
Economic development is a major initiative that Mayor Mike Rawlings is pushing in parts of the city that the app may suggest against visiting.
Pushing police patrols, maybe?
Wallace is concerned this type of technology would continue to perpetuate stereotypes in Dallas and beyond.
Anything but fix the problem. Anything.
"What happens in North Dallas certainly ought to be no different than what happens in South Dallas, so we can't keep on doing this," she said. "This type of technology is certainly going to pronounce and heighten it to some degree."
Yeah, North and South Dallas certainly ought to have similar statistics. Whose statistics would you rather have where you live? But that is neither here nor there, since this isn't a liberal Utopia. this is reality. And when drugs offer a better living than the economy can provide, people will go there. And if they have to go there, I prefer that it be contained in some place that I can easily avoid. And if you don't think it's fair, then go live in that neighborhood and vote accordingly.
Microsoft declined to comment, issuing a statement that said the company "does not comment on filed or awarded patents."
I guess we'll never hear about any other products they ever intend to make or have made, either.
Posted by:gorb

#16  Â“Can you imagine me not being able to go to MLK Blvd. because my GPS says thatÂ’s a dangerous crime area? I canÂ’t even imagine that." Dallas NAACP President Juanita Wallace
“If a friend calls you on the telephone and says they’re lost on Martin Luther King Boulevard and they want to know what they should do, the best response is ‘Run!’” Comedian Chris Rock
Posted by: Glolugum Hitler1017   2012-01-19 17:41  

#15  No death Toll is too high for the priests of political correctness.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2012-01-19 15:37  

#14  Jesse "I get scared when I see a couple of black guys walking down the street toward me" Jackson could not be reached for comment.....
Posted by: Barbara   2012-01-19 13:53  

#13  Having a chat about 'positive discrimination' earlier and the surmise was an ethnic person gets away saying a lot more racist comments than a white person with NO implications to them (see Diane Abbotts recent BLATANT RACIST statements).

What we are effectively saying is; RACISM EXISTS AND WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST so let's have it the other way for a while and make whitey suffer in whiteys house.

What we should be saying is NO TO RACISM, NO EXCUSE!

The liberal 'PC' troop are just perpetuating racism.
Posted by: Kojack   2012-01-19 13:25  

#12  So is it not OK even to verablly tell a family member or friend to avoid an area? Just asking?
Posted by: jack salami   2012-01-19 12:32  

#11  Just allow th alogrithm to be reverseable and it can be used as a "Good Places to Buy Crack" app - or a "Places That Need Social Investment" app for local governments. Everybody wins!
Posted by: Hellfish   2012-01-19 12:18  

#10  Fuck you, NAACP. If you actually tried to help the problem rather than make money off it, I might be more sympathetic.
Posted by: DarthVader   2012-01-19 11:23  

#9  LOL, 'moose. Glad I'm not the only one who, out of an abundance of caution, won't pee or get gas at any exit for MLK Jr. Drive/Blvd/etc. I feel bad, but not enough to risk getting carjacked or otherwise accosted.

I see why the app is controversial, but it just adds precision to an unpleasant reality people already take into account. Certainly it will be useful for foreigners. I know several who have been chased out of such areas by frustrated police who pulled them over to ask if they were bleeping crazy.
Posted by: RandomJD   2012-01-19 10:56  

#8  Oh and lastly our program would have made the decisions to route through bad parts invisible to the user. Mapping software would have routed you around unless your destination was actually there. And still they shot it down. Guess some folks at my company understood this mindset better than I did at the time.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2012-01-19 09:52  

#7  Back in the late 90s I worked for a mapping compay. We made maps intended for auto navigation. This was before it really took off. We created very detailed maps, had teams scouring the nation double-checking maps and addresses. A few of these maps came back for correction with notes "Man flashed gun at us" "Crack house" "Did not feel safe to make a second pass for addresses".

At the time we had an icon we would place on the map that would ensure mapping software didn't route someone through a private neighborhood. A rich area. Because those areas didn't want the extra traffic. I suggested why don't we use the same icon to ensure no routing past these clearly dangerous areas with crack houses and warnings that our own people felt were pretty scary. My suggestion seemed reasonable enough but it was quickly ignored and it was suggested that although I didn't mean it the suggestion was a bit racist. ??????

I just thought to myself eventually someone is gonna get killed because the mapping software sent them somewhere scary (there was a case of a German driving his car into the water because mapping software put a road there, long before Michael Scott on the office did so) and our maps are gonna end up in court showing that we also thought they were scary areas and yet we did nothing. The whole thing was really eye-opening to me.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2012-01-19 09:49  

#6  Microsoft could make a witty reply to this by saying that the NAACP should instead spend its time criticizing city governments for naming streets in high crime areas after MLK, and forcing black people to live there.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2012-01-19 09:46  

#5  Whites, Asians have their gangs too ya know.

Besides, ever do something like drive a blue car through a red neighborhood...its awkward.

Besides, if it avoided all crime areas, nobody would be able to drive to DC.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2012-01-19 08:58  

#4  I live near Chicago. I know perfectly well which neighborhoods to avoid, and I don't need an app for that.

I don't live near Detroit but I've figured out, based on news reports, which parts to avoid: all of them.

As to Dallas, the app sounds handy. All it is in the end is a crime map, and all that does is overlap publicly available statistics on a map. Ms. Wallace may not like it, but those are the facts.
Posted by: Steve White   2012-01-19 08:57  

#3  So what they are basically saying is:

High Crime Neighborhood == Black Neighborhood


(I'm not saying it - they are saying it)

This just extends what the local people already do anyway - Avoid the crime ridden areas. I don't know which neighborhoods of LA or Detroit I should avoid at night because I don't live there.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2012-01-19 08:37  

#2  How soon before the Department of (in)Justice argues that it is racist to consciously attempt to avoid being a victim of violent crime?
Posted by: M. Murcek   2012-01-19 07:59  

#1  Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2012-01-19 07:24  

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