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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Clinton: We need Assad's consent to put troops in Syria
2012-02-14
Good lord, is this woman stupid or what. The whole point of removing Pencilneck is to do it without his permission, or at least to threaten it credibly so as to get his attention. "Mother May I" isn't going to work.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Clearly not to be confused with 'Allan Foster Dulles'...
and Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu had a clear and unified message coming out of their meeting in Washington, D.C. Monday: They are looking for a political solution in Syria and won't consider putting international troops there unless the Syrian regime agrees.

Clinton and Davotoglu spent the afternoon preparing for the upcoming inaugural meeting of the "Friends of Syria" group this weekend in Tunisia. Following the meeting, they both urged the international community to support the Arab League's recommendations for Syria following their Sunday meeting in Cairo, which included a request for a U.N.-Arab peacekeeping force in Syria. But Clinton said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who the State Department accuses of murdering civilians, would have to agree first.

"We support the Arab League's decisions coming out of the meeting in Cairo to try to end the violence and move toward a transition. And we look forward to working closely with them in the lead-up to the meeting in Tunisia. There are a lot of challenges to be discussed as to how to put into effect all of their recommendations," Clinton said. "And certainly, the peacekeeping request is one that will take agreement and consensus. So we don't know that it is going to be possible to persuade Syria. They've already, as of today, rejected that."
And (get ready for this!) Pencilneck is likely to continue to reject it. So either you're for regime change, in which case you help the rebels and accept that the likely result is another Muslim Brotherhood, or you pack it up, head home, and accept that Pencilneck stays in power.
Clinton then explained the main mission in Syria is to persuade the Assad regime to change course and give up its hold on power voluntarily so that a process can begin to change the Syrian system of government.

"Ultimately, it's going to be important to convince the Assad regime that they are leading Syria into the outcome that we all deplore. We do not want to see a civil war in Syria," Clinton said. "No one wants to see a civil war in Syria.
You already have a civil war in Syria.
So we have to encourage the Assad regime, and those who support it, to understand that there's either a path toward peacemaking and democratic transition - which is what we are promoting - or there's a path that leads toward chaos and violence, which we deplore."
Or there's a path that puts the Muslim Brotherhood in charge, which is the most likely outcome.
The Cable followed up and asked Clinton what U.S. assistance could be provided to help protect the Syrian people just in case Assad doesn't have a change of heart and allow foreign troops into Syria or give up his power voluntarily.

Clinton declined to answer that question, but Davutoglu said there were a number of contingency plans that he and the U.S. are working on, although he hoped they would never need to be put into effect.

"Of course, as decision makers, politicians, we have to think all the options and scenarios. Some scenarios could be not opted for, but unfortunately in Syria today, there is such a situation we are alarm[ed] and we are all worried about. But today, the agenda in our consultations and also in Tunisian meeting will be a political solution, diplomatic solution, and humanitarian access as early as possible," he said. "At this moment, we are talking on diplomatic and humanitarian steps to be taken, but for other scenarios we hope that those things will not be needed. But we need to think about contingencies as well."
Posted by:Steve White

#10  OTOH DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > ARABS SET TO FAIl [again] WID LATEST SYRIA PLAN: ANALYSTS.

The Arab League's desire to be linked to UNO legitimacy keeps running into various pesky or serious obstructions, like the Euros + EU-ONLY BAILOUTS???

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > SYRIA: BEIJING'S POST-ASSAD PLANS.

IMO easier said than done for Beijing.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-02-14 23:27  

#9  Well, the MX can solve the problem in about 45 minutes. No need to send troops either.
Posted by: Silentbrick - Halliburton Lost Drill Bit Division   2012-02-14 20:44  

#8  Better idea; stay the hell out of that mess.
Posted by: Hupeagum Wheamp5986   2012-02-14 18:17  

#7  Watch : Hizbollah & Islamic Brotherhood : With China Co-Operation Has UN : ASEAN : APEC Members Find Peaceful Solution : Avert Revolution : War : ASSAD : ARABIYA : SYRIA : Co-Exist : Economic : Social Department : Socio Political Solution : Mutual Common Grounds : al Qaeda
Posted by: Karl Heinz    2012-02-14 16:11  

#6  Who is more palatable, Pencilneck or Mooselimb Bruderbund. Neither. Thus...

The way I look at it, Sunnis have killed 10,000 Americans. Alawites have killed zero (although for argument's sake I'll say 200+, counting the Marines in Lebanon, who were killed by Hezbollah, which received weaponry from Syria). Sunnis are descended from Muhammad's war bands. Alawites are descended from the original Hittite inhabitants.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2012-02-14 16:04  

#5  I would work on arming the Kurds and other groups and preparing them to take over once the rebellion is complete and the victors are somewhat spent.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2012-02-14 10:07  

#4  Remember Hubby Bill got permission from Haiti to send in the troops, after his representative [iirc Gen. Hugh Shelton] told the Haitian 'leadership' that our troops were already in the air and about the land anyway.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2012-02-14 09:10  

#3  Perhaps everyone is waiting for the courageous Hero of Kinetic Actions to step forward and offer up his Civilian Protective Service like he did for Libya. Syria does have oil, after all.
Posted by: Bobby   2012-02-14 06:15  

#2  If I escape the Mrs. for a pint down in the village and an argument or fight ensues somewhere in the pub, I drink up and quickly find the door. We should do the same.
Posted by: Besoeker   2012-02-14 03:32  

#1  We need to support both sides. Or not support them at all. Both.

Who is more palatable, Pencilneck or Mooselimb Bruderbund. Neither. Thus...

I would supply some goodies to the side that seems to be losing, to equalize the opportunities.

Yep, I am machiavellian, so what? We tried nation building. It's time to flip the coin and try some nation wrecking (since they do it themselves by default, the involvement may be feather lite--li'l nudge there, or here).
Posted by: Twobyfour   2012-02-14 01:27  

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