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Home Front: Culture Wars
Sunday Morning Book Review #1: Mohammed & Charlemagne Revisited
2012-06-10
By lotp.

In 410 AD, the city of Rome was overrun and sacked by Germanic tribes. If you're of a certain age, you will have been taught that these and other tribes attacked a decadent empire, bringing to an end the Classical period in history and launching the Dark Ages -- centuries during which the mechanisms of civilization were absent, standards of living collapsed and which ultimately gave rise to feudalism and the Middle Ages. The evidence seems clear: after about 400 AD, archaeological evidence shows a much lower standard of living, a much less rich and robust economy and interruptions of civic mechanisms in the Roman heartland itself. Rome's legions were withdrawn from Britain and elsewhere in Europe and the empire decayed rapidly.

In Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisted: The History of a Controversy Emmet Scott says it didn't happen that way. Scott picks up, extends and broadens a competing theory: namely, that the Empire as a whole -- whose center had long since moved to Constantinople and the bulk of whose citizens lived in the East, not the West - prospered after the sack of Rome, that Germanic and other tribes were eager to adopt Roman ways and that the sudden collapse of the Empire was due to the effects of militant Islam on a richly interdependent trade economy across the Mediterranean.

Scott cites detailed examples of 5th and 6th century Frankish, Gothic and other tribal leaders who explicitly adopted Roman administrative methods, appointed officials to offices defined in Roman law and acknowledged the emperor's authority. He notes evidence that Classical authors were well known and cited by Western (and not just Byzantine) writers during this period, illustrating that Classical learning was alive and well in the western portions of the empire. And he documents the role of the Catholic church and monasticism in not only preserving but also in advancing science and technology throughout these and later centuries.

So if Roman civilization was thriving, what happened to cause a collapse? Scott cites detailed evidence for a major collapse around 620 AD all across the Mediterranean world. Sophisticated agricultural infrastructure in the form of irrigation and field use suddenly become silted and inperable. Coins are no longer minted. Luxury goods that once were commonly imported no longer appear in the archaeological record. New building projects cease and old infrastructure crumbles rapidly.

Scott says the answer is clear. Muslim piracy and constant attacks on key economic centers destroyed the web of trade in the Mediterranean world. Islamic conquests resulted in rule by Arabs who neither knew nor cared about agriculture, so that countries like Egypt -- once the breadbasket of the Roman empire -- turned to sand. Slave trading became prevalent and skilled workers from the empire were forced into servitude in Muslim courts.

Sometimes a technology becomes critical to an entire civilization. In the Roman empire, that technology was, arguably, papyrus and written documents. Official activities, day to day business transactions and the education of the young -- all depended on the availability of papyrus as the medium for record keeping and writing in general. The Arab conquest of north Africa resulted in a total embargo on papyrus exports to the empire and, says Scott, as a result the sophisticated, complex empire was unable to recover from and respond to the piracy and physical attacks launched by the Muslims. A millennium-old civilization collapsed nearly overnight.

Scott's account is an important corrective to the narrative established in the 19th century, which promoted Islam as a tolerant and sophisticated society who invented and transmitted knowledge to the backward West. Scott insists, for instance, that while some transmission did occur, such inventions as the use of zero in mathematics came from India, with whom the Roman empire had had open trade for centuries that was subsequently interdicted by the Muslims.

Scott's account will be welcome to many Rantburg readers and contains a good deal of useful information. I am cautious about whole heartedly embracing his account, however, for several reasons. First, he has a repeated tendency to cite some information and then assert that we can make no other interpretation of that information except his own. When accounting for complex events that happened long ago and for which we have only fragmentary and indirect evidence, sweeping hand waves are not enough to convince me that the evidence has been carefully weighed and evaluated.

And that brings me to Scott himself. Although the book cover describes him as a "historian specializing in the ancient history of the Near East" I have not been able to find any corroborating evidence of his training, any prior publications or any institutional affiliation. Historians tend to publish less often, and with longer papers, than is common in scientific or technical fields, but they do publish and their publications are peer reviewed with often trenchant commentary from the unconvinced. So far as I can tell, Scott has only written this one book, which was published by the New English Review Press. Editors for the New English Review include Theodore Dalrymple, Ibn Warraq and several of the writers for the JihadWatch website -- in other words, people who have in common a belief that Islam is a major and destructive threat to our own civilization. They may well be right, but this book needs to be taken with a certain skepticism. Scott cites many sources, but he has a tendency to greatly oversimplify a number of relevant theories and facts along the way. Historians have since the 1950s seen the interaction between the various tribes, both IndoEuropean and Hun, and the Roman empire as a complex dance in which they are now allies, now military enemies. Moreover, there is strong evidence that the empire did indeed suffer for two centures from significant internal political, economic and demographic problems which would have made it much more susceptible to Muslim attack in the 620s. Scott neither acknowledges these nor generally speaking seems to understand the complexity of issues at work in the period. An historian trained at the doctoral level would, I think, at a minimum address 60 years of scholarly work in these areas, if only to refute it.

The question of Scott's training and experience matters specifically because he advances a position with sweeping claims. If he had trained at the doctoral level, we would know under whom and therefore with what bias. If he had published before, we could fill in the gaps in his argument from shorter, more detailed works and thereby accept or reject his argument with reference to those works. As it is, the book appears out of a vacuum, sponsored by people who themselves are not historians and who, furthermore, have a very specific political and cultural position they seek to advance. Caveat lector - let the reader beware.

I would like, though, to note one interesting speculation that Scott reports. Just how was it that the Arabs were able to so rapidly conquer and control vast areas of the Mediterranean region, especially since they lacked maritime expertise of their own? Scott briefly proposes that some members of the Persian elite converted to Islam specifically because of their hatred and envy of the West and out of enmity to the Romans with whom they had fought a number of inconclusive wars. Frustrated at their inability to expand into Europe and at their loss of influence with e.g. Egypt, they saw the Arabs and this new ideology as a means to reassert Persian influence across the ancient world. It was, says Scott, Persian-allied fleets that gave the Arabs the means to control shipping, launch raids and attack the West. Worth thinking about today.....

Some readers will also be interested in Scott's assertion that the holy war mentality exhibited by the Crusades was adopted by the Church in response to the effectiveness and justifications for Muslim jihad.

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#15  There are/were Muslims and Muslims. The much-touted liberal and sophisticated Islamic states in Spain were conquered by a bunch of non-sophisticated,non-liberal Muslims, another wave from North Africa.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey   2012-06-10 23:35  

#14  Very interesting, lotp, thanks!
Posted by: KBK   2012-06-10 20:59  

#13  There was also a major Roman Persian war from about 582-602 AD which was supposed to have caused enormous damage to both the Sassaniod and the Roman empires.

Furthermore, both empires made use of Arab mercenaries, which had the effect of training the Arabs in various military tactics, while weakening the Byzantines and Persians and making them vulnerable to Arab conquest.
Posted by: charger   2012-06-10 20:04  

#12  Steve White is correct. Justinian actually prepared the grounds for Muslim rule in North Africa which was seen as more benign (and to a point actually was) more benign than Byzantine rule.

Sure dhimmis had to pay a special tax but could still practice their faith and could rise to very high positions. Islamic "tolerance" very much depended on the respective Muslim ruler. Córdoba must have been one of the most civilized places in Europe, but let's not forget that the Islamic society in Andalucia depended a lot on slaves. Yet all this was not much different from the rest of serfdom in Europe. In the 11th century fanatics from Morocco took over and while they also adapted to a refined lifestyle, tolerance waned. Reconquered Christian Toledo shone brightly.

It's important not to interpret history with an ideological eye. Christians and Muslims weren't that much different in the Middle Ages. But the Muslim civilization stalled and turned backwards and never saw Enlightenment.

It still can, but this will change religion forever like it happened with Christianity. And a lot of blood will flow before hopefully success can be achieved.
Posted by: European Conservative   2012-06-10 17:47  

#11  I really enjoy this site. thank you
Posted by: bman   2012-06-10 17:25  

#10  So if Roman civilization was thriving, what happened to cause a collapse?

Might not have been Islam but the Byzantine Empire, specifically Justinian's attempt to reconquer the western Empire. He laid waste to Italy a couple times over the time period ~ 530 to 550 CE trying to seize and hold it against the various Ostrogoths. In the process the accumulated wealth of the western Roman Senators, which had previously survived the collapse of the western Empire, was devastated. Similar results were seen in north Africa as Justinian took those, and his successors had to try and hold them against Vandals, Goths, military insurrections and finally the Muslims.

This pre-dates Islam by about a hundred years, but both the western Mediterranean empire and the eastern Byzantine Empire suffered because of Justinian's overly ambitious plans to reconquer all of what was formerly Roman territory.
Posted by: Steve White   2012-06-10 17:19  

#9  Later, perhaps. But there is a distinct layer in the archaeological remains, consistent throughout the Mediterranean and dated to about 625 or so, in which all of the irrigation and other infrastructure becomes heavily silted and non-functional.

That could be due to an environmental/weather disaster - but no records exist to suggest such, including in e.g. China. FWIW
Posted by: lotp   2012-06-10 15:18  

#8  "Islamic conquests resulted in rule by Arabs who neither knew nor cared about agriculture"

Also doubtful. This may have been true for the beduins of the Arab heartland, but the conquest of Mesopotamia changed all that. The early Arab success did not just rest with military exploits but with the ability of the conquerors to secure allies and adapt themselves quickly to their new surroundings. They did not destroy old Roman and Persian irrigati0n practices, but rather perfected them as evidenced in Andalucia.
Posted by: European Conservative   2012-06-10 15:06  

#7  for a major collapse around 620 AD?

A bit early. Muslim expansion to Africa really began only 20 years later. And pirates in the Mediterranean existed well before the Muslims took over. Rome seems to have coped with them for centuries.

Also Africa didn't turn into a wasteland after Muslim conquest. North Africa was actually only conquered in a second wave from 665 to 689.

The loss of Egypt dealt a heavy blow to the Byzantine empire, but it managee to stay alive for another 800 years. The Western Roman Empire had become disfunctional well before Mohammed was even born.
Posted by: European Conservative   2012-06-10 14:50  

#6  It is indeed Pirenne, extended with evidence beyond the Italian penninsula and with a strong focus on the economic impact of Islamic attacks.

However, as I noted, Scott's more sweeping claims fail to take into account internal issues which had endangered the empire for centuries before Islam came along. For instance, Diocletian imposed massive wage and price control in 301AD in an attempt to counter currency devaluation among other problems.

Moreover, there were serious cultural issues facing the empire as well - for instance, a major demographic drop among native Romans due in good part to deliberate use of effective abortion and contraception. Roman inheritance and tax laws did not particularly favor having children, and raising them got in the way of having fun. Similarly, participation in public affairs required one to invest a good deal of private money in pulic works, so over time Roman elites withdrew from leading the state while retaining their privileges. Legalizaion and later adoption of Christianity addressed the demographic but not the leadership problem.

Well before the sack of Rome, tribal groups were being paid to patrol the boundaries of the empire - or paid off to avoid attacks. Over time they were integrated more formally into the Roman armies, but usually without the discipline and structure of the legions. The results were mixed, to put it mildly .....
Posted by: lotp   2012-06-10 12:33  

#5  Procopius2k, your book is available at Amazon.com, though not in Kindle form. :-).

Glusoger Gruter1463, good catch. Mr. Scott talks about Henri Pirenne's work as being key to his own thoughts in the free sample chapters available at the link lotp gives in the article.


#3  This seems to be a replay of the exact theory of famed Belgian historian Henri Pirenne, who wrote in the early 20th century.
Posted by: Glusoger Gruter1463   2012-06-10 11:29  


Posted by: trailing wife   2012-06-10 12:27  

#4  Thank you GG, it reminded me. An anthology of both views are in The Barbarian Invasion:Catalyst of a New Order, ed. Katherine Fisher Drew; Robert Kreiger Publishing Co., Huntington NY, 1977. Google if interested.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2012-06-10 11:38  

#3  This seems to be a replay of the exact theory of famed Belgian historian Henri Pirenne, who wrote in the early 20th century.
Posted by: Glusoger Gruter1463   2012-06-10 11:29  

#2  ..gave their name..
Posted by: Procopius2k   2012-06-10 11:03  

#1  Just keep in mind that while the Western Empire was dealing with the Muslims in the south, they were also dealing with Saxons in the north. The sea faring raiders game their name to the Litus Saxonicum, a military command of the late Roman Empire in Britannia, centuries before. The depredations by the Saxons of Britain after the withdraw of the legions was not much different with the degradation of 'civilization' as attributed to this thesis. It's the Arthurian myth and history of the island that recalled a brief moment of recovery before the proverbial deluge.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2012-06-10 11:02  

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