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The Grand Turk
Turkish military F-4 plane 'vanishes' near Syria border
2012-06-22
Turkish media said the plane, an F-4 jet, crashed in Syria or Syrian territorial waters.

The two crew-members were found alive, CNN Turk and the Hurriyet daily said.

Earlier, eyewitnesses in the northern Syrian town of Latakia told BBC Arabic that Syrian air defences shot down an unidentified aircraft near the town of Ras al-Baseet.
Navigation error? Attempted defection? Anti-Kurd action? Technically Turkey is our NATO ally... Filing as non-WoT, but that could change.
Posted by:Glenmore

#13  As posted on the other story, Turkey says Syria apologized. Alls well that ends.
Posted by: trailing wife   2012-06-22 23:19  

#12  DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > RUSSIANS ARMING SYRIA WID MISSLES [+ Specialists-Advisors to train,install same] TO HELP DEFEND AGZ NATO [+ US, EU?] ATTACK.

and

* SAME > [News Tribe] TAYYIP ERDOGAN [Turkish PM]REFUSES TO BLAME SYRIA FOR DOWNED FIGHTER.

Net going ballistic oer possible Russian involvement in shootdown, regional war scenarios in consequence.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-06-22 22:18  

#11  Y'know, maybe Erdogan shouldn't have spent the last decade or so slowly dismantling his military leadership and pissing off Turkey's two primary allies.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2012-06-22 21:51  

#10  Joe that's some interesting stuff.
I wonder if this is in any way related to the fighter bomber that defected to Turkey the other day. (tit for tat?)
Posted by: Water Modem   2012-06-22 21:49  

#9  VARIOUS = ...

> Syria claims the Turkish plane was shot down inside Syrian territorial waters.
> DEFENCENET [Greece] = Turkish AF F-4E 2020 or RF-4 shot down by S-300 ADS, POSSIBLY RUSSIAN MANNED/CONTROLLED?, wid permission of the Syrian Govt. Turkish AF was allowed by Syria to conduct SAR for its then-missing Pilots.
> Despite Net Artics to the contrary, there are conflicting claims by both SYRIAN MEDIA + TURKEY that Syria has NOT apologized to Turkey for the incident???
> SPECULATION/SCUTTLEBUTT THAT THE TURKISH PLANE MAY HAD ACTUALLY BEEN SHOT DOWN BY A NAVAL VESSEL [Russian?], NOT SYRIAN SHORE-BASED AD ARTY, which could explain Erdogan's seemingly tight-lipped or panicky? behavior???

D *** NG, + NO POPCORN ANYWHERE AROUND TO BOOT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-06-22 20:33  

#8  KFI commute radio just a half hour ago said the pilots were NOT recovered. Interesting....
Posted by: Frank G   2012-06-22 20:31  

#7  FOX NEWS this AM says the Turks are threatening
"reprisal" despite apology from Syruh.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-06-22 19:48  

#6  The fact that they could see it tells them it wasn't Israeli...

+1 point for Steve White
Posted by: DarthVader   2012-06-22 17:43  

#5  Turkey is still playing with 30+ year old F-4's and inshallah maintenance? Fun stuff.
Posted by: Muggsy Glink   2012-06-22 15:26  

#4  The fact that they could see it tells them it wasn't Israeli...
Posted by: Steve White   2012-06-22 12:56  

#3  Probably quick to fire thinking it was US. The fact that they actually may have shot it down should have told them it wasn't American (or Israeli)...
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2012-06-22 12:54  

#2  Why so quick to strike? Worried about something? Maybe the rebels have jets now?
Posted by: gorb   2012-06-22 12:37  

#1  Syria shot it down, Turkey picked up the pilots, Syria apologized saying it was a grave error.
Posted by: newc   2012-06-22 12:11  

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