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U.S. Senator Says 4,700 Killed in Drone Strikes
2013-02-21
[An Nahar] A U.S. senator has said an estimated 4,700 people, including some civilians, have been killed in bombing raids conducted under America's secretive drone war, local media reported Wednesday.

The toll from hundreds of drone-launched missile strikes against suspected al-Qaeda beturbanned goons in Pakistain, Yemen and elsewhere has remained a mystery, as U.S. officials refuse to publicly discuss any details of the covert campaign.

But Republican Senator Lindsey Graham
... the endangered South Carolina RINO...
, a staunch supporter of drone use, openly cited a number that exceeds some independent estimates of the toll.

"We've killed 4,700," Graham was quoted as saying by the Easley Patch, a local website covering the small town of Easley in South Carolina.

"Sometimes you hit innocent people, and I hate that, but we're at war, and we've taken out some very senior members of al-Qaeda," Graham reportedly told the Easley Rotary Club.

Despite criticism from some politicians and rights advocates who have questioned the secrecy and the legality of the drone attacks, Graham defended President Barack Obama
The campaign's over, John...
's reliance on the unmanned, robotic aircraft.

"It's a weapon that needs to be used," Graham said. "It's a tactical weapon. A drone is an unmanned aerial vehicle that is now armed."

It was not clear if Graham was referring to the U.S. government's own estimate of casualties from drone strikes. His office was not immediately available for comment.
"I can say no more!"
Using press reports and other sources, several organizations have tried to calculate how many beturbanned goons and civilians may have been killed in the drone strikes, which have been expanded dramatically under Obama's administration.

The Washington-based New America Foundation says there have been 350 U.S. drone strikes since 2004, most of them during Obama's presidency. And the foundation estimates the corpse count at between 1,963 and 3,293, with 261 to 305 civilians killed.
Posted by:Fred

#10  I just want to say that I'm damn happy JFM is on our side, and deh visa versa.

Posted by: Shipman   2013-02-21 16:37  

#9  Doing "body counts" again are we? Certainly was effective in Vietnam.

That worked out pretty well. Westmoreland was just a scapegoat for not bringing North Vietnam to the peace table quickly enough. In a war where you don't have the manpower to control the borders, locals are sympathetic to the enemy and you can't take it to the enemy's capital, attrition is the only game in town. Creighton Abrams, like Petraeus in Iraq, was the beneficiary of years of meatgrinder activity. It's kind of funny how Petraeus tried his hearts and minds program from the git go, and we're still fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. They're rationalizing it by saying that Afghans are too illiterate, relative to Iraqis, for that approach to work. I think we just haven't killed enough Pashtuns.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2013-02-21 15:13  

#8  some drone attacks are made by USAF and some by the CIA and some by US and perhaps some by others
Posted by: lord garth   2013-02-21 12:38  

#7  One day at the ahirdresser I overheard a man telling that during his eraly teens he lived in Normandy and how happy he was of seeing German soldiers sh.g in their pants during an Allied bombardment.
Posted by: JFM   2013-02-21 12:32  

#6  For a perspective, how about French civilian deaths from allied 'strategic' bombing during WWII. The total number of civilians killed was 68,778 men, women and children. Remember for critics, perfection is the only standard, except for themselves.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-02-21 12:17  

#5  Goober's gonna get primaried. He's putting on his "tough guy independent-thinking conservative" costume
Posted by: Frank G   2013-02-21 10:27  

#4  Body counts only work if you count enough bodies. I don't think 3800 is anywhere close to enough. x10^4, maybe.
Posted by: Glenmore   2013-02-21 08:11  

#3  Doing "body counts" again are we? Certainly was effective in Vietnam.

Yep.
No word on how many the frog smitted in darkest Africa as of yet.
Posted by: Shipman   2013-02-21 07:10  

#2  Doing "body counts" again are we? Certainly was effective in Vietnam.
Posted by: Besoeker   2013-02-21 06:54  

#1  HHHHMMMMM, HHHMMMMMM, wehell, iff Pak Foreign Secretary Jilani claim that 80% of those killed in US Drone Strikes were terrorists holds true, applying that 80%-age to Senator Graham's number would mean that 3,760 = under 3800 of the 4,700 were likely terrorists.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2013-02-21 00:31  

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