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China-Japan-Koreas
Kerry offers missile defense concession
2013-04-15
Seeks help from China in dealing with North Korea

BEIJING -- Secretary of State John Kerry flew to China on Saturday and offered a concession on missile defense meant to elicit China's help in dealing with an increasingly recalcitrant and nuclear armed North Korea. In a news conference after meetings with China's top leaders, Kerry said the United States would reduce its missile defenses in Asia if North Korea abandoned its nuclear weapons program.
That is just plain idiotic.
Kerry's overture appeared aimed at addressing Chinese concerns that North Korea's provocative actions were leading the United States to build up military strength in the region as China is boosting its own influence there.

''On missile defense, we discussed absolutely why we have taken the steps that we have taken,'' Kerry said, referring to efforts the United States is taking to defend Guam, Hawaii, and the United States' allies in Asia against a potential North Korean missile attack. The United States has dispatched two ships capable of missile defense and said it would speed up land-based missile defenses for Guam.

''Now obviously if the threat disappears -- i.e. North Korea denuclearizes -- the same imperative does not exist at that point of time for us to have that kind of robust forward leaning posture of defense,'' he added. ''It would be our hope in the long run, or better yet in short run, that we can address that.''
Why would we believe that the Norks would keep a promise -- is it their sterling track record of promises kept in the past?
Kerry's offer to cut back on the newly fortified missile defense appeared to be part of a diplomatic strategy to get China, the North's only true ally, to do what it has long resisted -- to crack down hard enough on Pyongyang that its leaders will give up an increasingly sophisticated nuclear program.
So to do that we're offering concessions instead of standing strong and forcing the Chinese to realize that we're not moving. The masters of Beijing must be laughing their asses off at Mr. Kerry this evening...
In the past China has worried that any move to destabilize the North would lead to a collapse of the regime and deliver the entire peninsula to the United States' sphere of influence, possibly bringing US troops in South Korea closer to its border.
Which we could deal with in a cynical way by dividing North Korea between China and South Korea, with an implicit promise that we wouldn't move American forces north of the old DMZ.
China remains a linchpin to the Obama administration's policy of holding a tough line on Pyongyang, a reversal from the past.
What is tough about the new line? We're conceding again...
Previous administrations used aid to mollify the North and gain concessions on its nuclear program, only to see the North's promises evaporate once the aid had been delivered.
Right. Correct. Even the Boston Globe gets it. So now Mr. Kerry thinks that if we make a concession to them and the Chinese that the Norks will behave. Good lord is that man schtoopid...
Kerry said the Chinese shared the US goal of denuclearizing the Korean Peninsula, although he declined to say what steps China said it would take to accomplish it.

Even if China were to take a harsher stance, North Korea might not fall into line.
They might wait for more concessions, having taken the measure of Mr. Kerry -- and Champ -- and thinking that more surely will be coming...
Under the new leader, Fat Boy Kim Jong Un, the North has supposedly snubbed China several times, including refusing Chinese entreaties to cancel its recent nuclear test that set off tensions on the Peninsula.

Kerry's remarks are likely to stir concern among staunch advocates of missile defense in the United States, who also see antimissile systems as a means of responding to China's growing military might.
Since China, unlike Russia, doesn't yet have enough ICBMs to overwhelm a layered SM3/THAAD defense.
At the core of the issue is the United States' inability to draw North Korea into a serious round of nuclear talks.
It's not up to us to draw them in. Let them rattle their saber. We can afford to sit back quietly, keep our defense strong, and let them implode.
North Korea's apparent determination to expand its nuclear weapons program and the US demand that it commit up front to eventually relinquishing its nuclear arms have raised the question of whether there is even any basis for negotiations.

''China has an enormous ability to help make a difference here,'' Kerry said Friday during a stop in Seoul, adding that he had planned in meetings with Chinese leaders to ''lay out a path ahead that can defuse this tension.''

The Chinese stance on North Korea has never been a simple one, though. On the one hand, the Chinese prize stability and are eager to avoid a crisis on the Korean Peninsula that would spawn a flood of refugees or prompt the United States to shift more forces to the Pacific.
On the other hand, North Korea is a useful stick with which to jab the United States whenever the Chinese are in the mood...
After Kim's recent boasts about North Korea's ability to carry out military strikes, the Obama administration decided to speed up the deployment of missile defenses to Guam and sent Aegis cruisers equipped with antimissile systems into the region. It also conducted a military exercise in which B-2 bombers flew to South Korea before returning to their base in the United States, and it briefly deployed two F-22 fighters in South Korea as well.

On the other hand, that same Chinese concern for stability has meant that it is reluctant to take steps that would undermine the North Korean government's hold on power and eliminate a friendly buffer between Chinese territory and South Korean and US forces.

In an effort to solicit China's help,
There's your first mistake, Jahwn...
Kerry met with Foreign Minister Wang Yi, President Xi Jinping, Premier Li Keqiang, and State Councilor Yang Jiechi. Wang said at a dinner with Kerry on Saturday that China was committed to ''the denuclearization process on the Korean Peninsula.''

The Chinese foreign minister also stressed that the ''issue should be handled and resolved peacefully through dialogue and consultation.''
Posted by:Steve White

#7  Naturally Jawn would bargain away a "dream based on an illusion ballistic missile defense system".

It's a cure for a "cancer on our nation's defense".

See Friday's Post Here
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2013-04-15 17:21  

#6  That's it Jawn. Pretend those NORK missiles are not really ChiComm missiles. That'll make everything all better...until the next batch of NORK missiles and the next crisis. And then, of course, you'll have to make another concession.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2013-04-15 11:56  

#5  ..true, but when your supplier hems and haws about supply and parts or uses it to stop your own efforts of self defense [when seconds count, the 'international' police are days away], it's time to start reverse engineering.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-04-15 11:22  

#4  Japan already has Aegis Destroyers with SM-3s
Posted by: Frank G   2013-04-15 09:33  

#3  I'm sure SKorea, Japan, Taiwan, et al can also manufacture their own missile defense [and are idiots if they don't start it up now]. I'm sure the Israelis would be willing to provide technical and material assistance for monetary and political compensation.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-04-15 09:17  

#2  Neville Chamberlain to the white courtesy phone...
Posted by: Uncle Phester   2013-04-15 08:32  

#1  It is idiotic but thats beside the point.

Starvation, indigenous econ woes, + Sino-centric/dominant Sino-DPRK free trade is doing more to destabilize North Korea than anything the US-Allies are doing. IMO THE DPRK CAN NO LONGER PROTRACTIVELY WAIT MANY YEARS OR DECADES FOR FORMAL REUNIFICATION WID THE SOUTH TO OCCUR.
It has to occur ASAP, likely widin 5-8 years at max, to avoid a Chinese takeover which the ROK, Nippon, + Russia, etc. don't want to see.

China's problema' is different - Besides modernization, its prob is the Nuclear Global Jihad, + gaining strategic access as befitting a "post-US" Global Superpower = World #1.

Lest we fergit, 9-11 + GWOT > WAR FOR ANTI-STATUS QUO + PRO-US-VS-ANTI-US OWG-NWO = something's gotta give in NE Asia.

ITS NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY, PEACEFUL, OR BLOODLESS. SOMEONE(S) HAS TO SURRENDER LIKE FRANCE TO AVOID A NUCLEAR CONFLICT - either China gives in, or the US gives in.

> China takesover the DPRK while the US-Allies keep Taiwan.

OR

> China takes Taiwan, but can still takeover the DPRK.

Nuclear Islam-Jihad is just starting up in Asia-Pacific BUT ITS COMING.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2013-04-15 01:58  

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