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Home Front: Culture Wars
Boy Scouts rule change could bankrupt iconic group
2013-05-02
[WASHINGTONEXAMINER] With just three weeks before the Boy Scouts consider opening membership to homosexual boys, a new threat to the organization is being raised by the proposed rule change: It could go broke.
I think I keyed in on this about thirty seconds after the incident came up first, several long years ago.
Critics say the rule change could financially starve the 103-year-old Texas-based group in two ways: Church-based troops, which comprise the majority of Boy Scout units, are threatening to leave,
Good idea. Make them all church-based. Call them "Pathfinders" or something, and to back to teaching them to make campfires and tie knots and hike.
and the potential for sexual harassment and bullying could lead to massive legal fees.
Doh! If the potential's there a suit's gonna follow, as sure as night follows day.
What's more, even liberal groups are raising concerns that the rule doesn't also allow gay adults to join or be Scoutmasters, meaning that a gay Eagle Scout would be forced out when he turns 18.
How very sad.
One of the leading opposition groups, OnMyHonor.net, is circulating a 10-point legal analysis to the delegates expecting to vote on the Boy Scouts of America resolution change. In addition to raising the financial and age issues, the group suggested that the new rule could allow transgendered girls into the all-male club, a potentially explosive new change.
If a girl who thinks she's a boy engages in sexual exploration on an overnight hiking trip with a boy who's convinced he's a boy is it homosexual activity? What if the boy thinks he's a girl? Would that make it some kind of counterintuitive heterosexual activity? By this point, I'm ready to go back to church and let the Pope figure it out.
"The effect of the phrase 'sexual preference' in the BSA resolution could be used by LGBT activists to push for transgendered girls in the BSA. If a biological girl 'prefers' acting out as a transgendered boy, she must also be allowed into any Boy Scout troop," according to the analysis provided to Secrets.
Conversely, shouldn't boys who think they're girls be allowed to join the Girl Scouts and sell cookies?
"Because the vague and undefined phrase 'sexual preference' is used in the resolution, it opens the door and requires Scout units to accept any sexual preference expressed."
If the Boy Who Loved Chickens applies for membership, you can't keep him out. Same with the kid who likes wearing nothing but a domino mask and being publicly flogged.
OnMyHonor and other groups including the Family Research Council, Concerned Women for America, the American Family Association, and Focus on the Family are urging the 1,400 delegates of the BSA National Council to reject the rule change at the upcoming May 22-25 convention. OnMyHonor is holding a Sunday night simulcast to plot a strategy to fight the pro-homosexual rule.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: at that age sex shouldn't exist for them. They'll learn more than enough hanging around street corners. And in school.
Posted by:Fred

#12  Hmmm, I detect Bias, the Sinktrap shows NOTHING DELETED today.
The last two comments were vanished, not deleted.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2013-05-02 23:44  

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Posted by: Marilyn Lover of the Hatfields1778   2013-05-02 18:52  

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Posted by: Marilyn Lover of the Hatfields1778   2013-05-02 18:47  

#9  I take it this would include Cub Scouts too right?

Been thinking about having my son join....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2013-05-02 16:30  

#8  Commando by Deneys Reitz is a quicker, more exciting read. Like a half of Guinness, you'll not be able to put it down.
Posted by: Besoeker   2013-05-02 16:24  

#7  They've picked the very worst option of the three possible: 1. Keep current exclusionary policy; 2. Remove exclusion entirely; 3. Allow gay boys but not adults.
Number three adds together the worst outcomes of both 1 and 2: Those who favor exclusion will hate allowing gay boys, AND those who favor INclusion will hate excluding gay men. Presto! Worst of all outcomes. Brilliant.
When Scouting tried to de-emphasize traditional values and outdoor skills in the 70s and 80s, it was a membership disaster. When they woke up and restored these things, ("Character Counts") this trend was reversed.
This change, if ratified, will doom them.
Posted by: Mowog   2013-05-02 16:23  

#6  Difficult to practice effective "field craft" whilst marched headlong into walls of well aimed Mauser fire by incompetent English officers. - didn't learn well from other colonials be it Bunker Hill or New Orleans did they?

Should read up on how officers were selected and promoted in the British Army of the time. Wouldn't be surprised on the results encountered in South Africa. Best read is probably Pakenham's The Boer War which describes well an army trying to reform itself during a war. The out numbered Old Contemptibles learned well enough to handle the Germans smartly in 1914.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-05-02 15:55  

#5  Boer, not boar. A boar is a male pig.
Posted by: Muggsy Mussolini1226   2013-05-02 15:25  

#4  During the Second Boar War, Robert Baden-Powell saw that his countrymen had lost their field craft skills.

Difficult to practice effective "field craft" whilst marched headlong into walls of well aimed Mauser fire by incompetent English officers.
Posted by: Besoeker   2013-05-02 13:43  

#3  During the Second Boar War, Robert Baden-Powell saw that his countrymen had lost their field craft skills. On his return from Africa in 1903, Baden-Powell found that his military training manual, Aids to Scouting, had become a best-seller, and was being used by teachers and youth organisations.[26] Following his involvement in the Boys' Brigade as Brigade Secretary and Officer in charge of its scouting section, with encouragement from his friend, William Alexander Smith, Baden-Powell decided to re-write Aids to Scouting to suit a youth readership. In August 1907 he held a camp on Brownsea Island to test out his ideas. About twenty boys attended: eight from local Boys' Brigade companies, and about twelve public school boys, mostly sons of his friends...Boys and girls spontaneously formed Scout troops and the Scouting Movement had inadvertently started, first as a national, and soon an international phenomenon.

Note well the confluence of urbanization and the loss of skills, leading to Powell's initiative.

Enter stage Left, the need of urbanists to co-opt anything that doesn't align with their culture. Either morph it, through force or intimidation, into something that aligns with the priorities of the ruling urban caste, or destroy it.

The right of free association also includes the right of non-association. Just ask the Black Congressional Caucus. They know if they open membership to everyone, they'd soon be a minority again and out of control of its agenda.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-05-02 12:23  

#2  Der Wandervugel ? :-(
Posted by: Besoeker   2013-05-02 11:27  

#1  at that age sex shouldn't exist for them.

Yep. And, what stops them from forming their own club? Call them Pathfinders or something. "Snake Eaters," if they want to sound really tuff.

Ha ha oops, maybe not . . . ;)
Posted by: RandomJD   2013-05-02 11:21  

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