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China-Japan-Koreas
China continues to press Japan on outlying islands
2013-05-16
Moved to WoT(Background)
Posted by:rammer

#10  "Then the Mongols in Ulan Bator have a claim to China which predates both the Ming and Qing dynasties."

They don't, Pk2?
Posted by: Barbara   2013-05-16 23:39  

#9  If you use that kind of logic then..

Then the Mongols in Ulan Bator have a claim to China which predates both the Ming and Qing dynasties.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-05-16 22:31  

#8  They were all set to land until the New Coke debacle.
Posted by: Shipman   2013-05-16 18:01  

#7  It's like the aliens talking in my head said yesterday. Earth is not ready to be contacted yet.

Sigh.
Posted by: Dopey Sinatra9196   2013-05-16 16:47  

#6  If you use that kind of logic, then we will have to go back to Pangea, which will be a huge can of worms.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2013-05-16 14:52  

#5   the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences — asserted that the kingdom of the Ryukyu Islands was a Chinese vassal state during the Ming and Qing dynasties, and concluded: “It may be time to revisit the unresolved historical issue of the Ryukyu Islands.”

If you use that kind of logic then the West Bank and Gaza Strip should belong to Israel.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2013-05-16 12:20  

#4  I expect we'll have to write off the Taiwanese. Blood is thicker than water. They voted twice for a guy whose heart is set on reunification. In retrospect, Bush's decision to deny late model F-16's to Taiwan may have been a wise one. In a fight over Okinawa, I expect JSDF and USAF bombing runs over Taiwan, which is quite a shift from the WWII history of the Japanese and US air services facing off against each other.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2013-05-16 11:28  

#3  Greater East Asian Co-prosperity Sphere - has kind of a ring to it, doesn't it?
Posted by: Glenmore   2013-05-16 06:06  

#2  IMO its a go for China for their rough 1/2 of the Pacific agz the US.

* See also TOPIX > [SCMP.com] OKINAWA DOESN'T BELONG TO JAPAN, SAYS HAWKISH PLA GENERAL.

PLA MGen. Luo Yuan

* SAME > TAIWAN REBUFFS PHILIPINE APOLOGY | [Bloomberg] TAIWAN PLAN DRILL AT SEA AFTER REBUFFING PHILIPPINES OVER DEATH OF SEAMAN.

* SAME > TAIWAN: PHILIPPINE APOLOGY LACKS SINCERITY.

Also from TOPIX ...
> SOUTH KOREA: NORTH TAKING A TIMEOUT/HIATUS FROM THREATS. Read, CHINA-INDIA EXCHANGE VISITS.
Expect new incidents iff the Khurshid-Keqiang exchange don't produce any serious or positive results, espec on SINO-INDIAN BORDER ISSUES.

> [Real Clear Politics] CHINA STOKING JAPANESE SEPARATISM; + CHINA BEST TO HALT AT THE CLIFF OF SEPARATISM.

China's support for Okinawa independence, return to China, or autonomy from Tokyo highly similar to its dichotomous diplomatic rapprochement wid the UK ala Northern Ireland + Scottish movements from few decades ago.
> [WaPo] CHINA QUESTIONS TOKYO RULE OVER OKINAWA IN EFFORT TO GAIN LEVERAGE IN EAST CHINA SEA DISPUTE [Senkakus/Diaoyus].

Its more than that - again, China desires the Senkakus/Diaoyus + Okinawa in order to guard the Air-Sea-Space approaches to its future PLA Milbases on post-reunified Taiwan. PERHAPS MORE BLUNTLY, THE SENKAKUS/DIAOYUS + OKINAWA ISSUES IS ABOUT BEIJING'S SOVEREIGNTY OVER TAIWAN, I.E. ITS EQUIVALENT OF THE LATE 19TH-EARLY 20TH CENTURY "PEARL HARBOR/HAWAIIIAN ISLANDS" FOR STRATEGIC ENTRY INTO THE DEEP PACIFIC + AMERICAS.

VERSUS

* DEFENCE FORUM INDIA > JAPANESE PM [Abe] WARNS OF POSSIBLE [JSDF] MILITARY RESPONSE TO [unknown = foreign] SUBS, incursions near Okinawa Perfecture.

SSSSHHHHHH read CHINA + PLAN.

* WORLD MILITARTY FORUM > TAIWAN'S "GLOBAL DEFENSE" MAGAZINE DIRECTOR: TAIWAN + ITS MODERN MILITARY WILL NEED ONLY TWO HOURS TO DESTROY THE MISERABLE/PATHETIC ARMED FORCES OF THE PHILIPPINES IFF A MILITARY CONFLICT BROKE OUT OVER FISHERMAN KILLING.

* RELATED SAME > MAINLAND CHINA SENDS PLA "EAST SEAS" FLEET INTO BASHI CHANNEL TO APPLY MILITARY PRESSURE ON THE PHILIPPINES, in support of Taiwan/ROC + Taiwan/ROC-demanded apology = "ultimatum" over fisherman killing by PHIL.

* SAME > PRO-INDEPENDENCE OKINAWA COALITION OF ACADEMICS AND ACTIVISTS ESTABLISHED TO FORMALLY PROCLAIM "YU JIAN RYUKYU REPUBLIC" ON MAY 15, 2013.

Yokay, I'll say it - THATS DONE IT.

FYI TOPIX > [DefenceTalk News] OFFICIAL: NORTH KOREA HAS NO NUCLEAR WARHEAD TO FIT ON MISSLES.

IOW, 'tis another way of saying that any DPRK Nukes is N-O-T DPRK or North Korean, BUT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE, OR SOME OTHER COUNTRY, AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHOM THAT IS???

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > STARTLING REVELATION: PPP PARTY GAVE LAND TO USA TO OVERSEE [SSSSHHHH spy] CHINA'S GWADAR PORT, as surprisingly revealed by Dr. Shahid Masoor during a televised interview on NewsOneTV.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2013-05-16 01:37  

#1  And more and more.. and more they will push.
Posted by: newc   2013-05-16 00:41  

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