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China-Japan-Koreas
Japan Launches a "Destroyer" with a 820 Ft Flight Deck
2013-08-06
Japan on Tuesday unveiled its biggest warship since World War II, a huge flat-top destroyer that has raised eyebrows in China and elsewhere because it bears a strong resemblance to a conventional aircraft carrier.

The ship, which has a flight deck that is nearly 820 feet long, is designed to carry up to 14 helicopters. Japanese officials say it will be used in national defense -- particularly in anti-submarine warfare and border-area surveillance missions -- and to bolster the nation's ability to transport personnel and supplies in response to large-scale natural disasters, like the devastating earthquake and tsunami in 2011.

Though the ship -- dubbed "Izumo" -- has been in the works since 2009, its unveiling comes as Japan and China are locked in a dispute over several small islands located between southern Japan and Taiwan. For months, ships from both countries have been conducting patrols around the isles, called the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyutai in China.

Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#15  IIRC TOPIX, WORLD NEWS > JAPAN'S NEW WARSHIP "IZUMO" IS NOT AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER, BUT A "FLAT-TOP/DECKED DESTROYER".

Well, there ya go, I'm certainly convinced its not a CV!

* CHINA DAILY FORUM > JAPAN'S NEW WARSHIP ["Izumo"] DRAWS FIRE, as it is illegal under Japan's postwar Constitution for it to build or possess CV's.

* RELATED WORLD MILITARY FORUM > POST-WAR JAPAN SOUGHT TO CONSTRUCT UP TO FOUR LIGHT OR ESCORT AIRCRAFT CARRIERS UNDER ITS "JAPAN NAVY RENEWAL" PROGRAM OF THE EARLY 1950'S.

Failed to Nippon's continuing recovery from WW2, i.e. budget $$$ twas better spent elsewhere.

* WAFF > [Janes Defense Weekly] IMAGES SUGGEST CHINA'S FIRST [indigenous] CARRIER UNDER CONTRUCTION.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > [National Interest]CHINA'S CARRIER MODULE [Hull construction] HIGHLIGHTS SURGING NAVY.

Artic reminds me once again of personal childhood dreams/visions of Chinese "white ships" off Guam.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [AFP] PHILIPPINES VOWS INTENSIFIED SEA PATROLS. TALKS UNDERWAY FOR THIRD "HAMILTON-CLASS" [US hand-me-down]| FOX NEWS.

* Also from DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > PHILIPPINES SAYS US SPY PLANES {help] MONITORING CHINA AT SEA, i.e. in South China Sea.

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* TOPIX > CHINA CONDEMNS US SENATE RESOLUTION ON DISPUTED ISLANDS.

* Also from TOPIX > [ABS-CBN News] CHINA LAUNCHES NEW NAVAL ROUTE IN DISPUTED WATERS [South China Sea = PHIL=claimed Spratlys].

New patrol route is inclusive of any + all China-claimed islands + areas in the South China Sea, most of which per se is also claimed by China.

IOW, mainland China = Beijing calls for peaceful negotiations + resolution as per disputed SCS issues while steadily engaging in aggressive
"SOFT/SUBTLE ESCALATIONS".

* SAME > [SCMP] XI VOWS CHINA WILL BECOME A MARITIME POWER.

* WORLD NEWS > [Stuff] CHINESE SHOOTER GAME ["Defend/Recover the Diaoyus" ]BEARS TERRIBLE MESSAGE, for Regional [Sino-Japan, East Asia] + possibly World Peace.

* SAME > NO ONE CAN CONTAIN [or will try to] CONTAIN CHINA, SCHOLAR SAYS AMID TERRITORY ROWS.

Chinese CIIS Senior Fellow Ruan Zongze.

Anyone whom trys will make a serious [dangerous?] "misjudgement".

* SAME > US SEA POWER NEEDS TO REMAIN A PRIORITY.


Posted by: JosephMendiola   2013-08-06 23:56  

#14  D *** NG, does Godzilla + Boyz know???

FYI China has repor deployed new MBM units to target agz Japan.

Iff CHINA remains committed to breaking out of the "First Island Chain" + be at the "Second Island Chain" ["taking over" e.g. Guam-CNMI-WESTPAC] by 2020, then pragmatically it behooves China to do so while POTUS OBAMA = "WEAKEST US PRESIDENT IN HISTORY/SINCE POTUS CARTER" occupies the White House.

Come 2018, unless China trusts Obama's successor in the White House to be another anti-US Marxist-anarchist-Globalist, all bets are off on whether China can still achieve its "post-US" Manifest Destiny or Globalist anti-US "Co-Superpower" using OOTW andor LIMITED CONVENTIONAL-NUCLEAR WAR, as opposed to full-scale TOTAL NUCLEAR WAR.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2013-08-06 19:54  

#13  Harriers don't need a ramp, it just saves a lot of fuel. If you had midair fueling you wouldn't need that
Posted by: rjschwarz   2013-08-06 14:33  

#12  The original couldn't hold many choppers.

"Two Izumo class cruisers were purchased from Armstrong Whitworth of the United Kingdom. Both were scrapped after the end of World War II.

Izumo

Ordered in 1897, launched on 19 September 1898, and completed 25 September 1900, Izumo participated in the Russo-Japanese War, World War I and World War II. Between both World Wars, it served as a training ship for long distance oceanic navigation and officer cadet training for the Imperial Japanese Navy Academy. She is generally credited with sinking HMS Peterel (1927) at Shanghai, the first Royal Navy vessel sunk in the Pacific War. She was sunk at dock in an American air attack on Kure 24 July 1945."

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2013-08-06 12:21  

#11  TW

They will have to Ojiisan her.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2013-08-06 12:13  

#10  How many days would it take to fit a prefab ski jump on that puppy?

"At one time, the Japanese islands were controlled from Izumo, according to Shinto myths. Izumo, known as the realm of gods or the land of myths..."

"Japanese cruiser Izumo, an armored cruiser of the Imperial Japanese Navy from 1900 to the end of World War II"
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2013-08-06 12:10  

#9  What with the aging of the Japanese population and all, will they be able to properly man her?
Posted by: trailing wife   2013-08-06 11:58  

#8  Isumo can't fly the Harrier -- no ski jump ramp. F-35B might work.
Posted by: Steve White   2013-08-06 11:53  

#7  Soryu is a new class of Japanese diesel-electric AIP submarine. Sister boats will be named after other mythological creatures (Soryu is 'blue dragon'), and so I don't know if the other names such as Akagi, etc are reserved for these new boats as they are built.
Posted by: Steve White   2013-08-06 11:53  

#6  The ship, which has a flight deck that is nearly 820 feet long, is designed to carry up to 14 helicopters.

Lots of real estate for helos; quite handy for amphib assault. My SWAG: they are going to stuff her (are Japanese ships 'she'?) to the gills with drones for numerical advantage in the coming troubles.
Posted by: SteveS   2013-08-06 11:33  

#5  F-35 VSTOL variant.
Posted by: Pappy   2013-08-06 11:32  

#4  How many Harriers would fit on deck?
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2013-08-06 11:27  

#3  It is Hiroshima day...
Posted by: Beavis   2013-08-06 11:20  

#2  the ship -- dubbed Izumo

What? Akagi, Kaga, Soryu or Hiryu not available?

Don't worry, our leader is the one who apologizes. He only hates conservatives, Tea Party people, etc. You know, internal enemies.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-08-06 11:10  

#1  End the pretense. Detonate a nuke.
Posted by: Iblis   2013-08-06 10:57  

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