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Afghanistan
Afghan Forces Suffering 'Unsustainable' Casualties, Top Nato Commander Says
2013-09-04
[Telegraph] May need the west's support for years.

General Joseph Dunford, the highest US and NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A collection of multinational and multilingual and multicultural armed forces, all of differing capabilities, working toward a common goal by pulling in different directions...
commander in the country, said that the security forces' weekly death regularly toll tops 100 and therefore they may need five more years of western support before they can fight independently.

He added that it was too early to tell whether NATO had been right to end combat operations and only offer training and support in the war torn country this Spring.

He said that both NATO and Afghan commanders viewed the number of men being lost as "serious", telling the Guardian: "I'm not assuming that those casualties are sustainable."

The rapidly expanded security forces, now 350,000 strong, have grasped the basics
Our original committment in that area included the goal of having all officers and enlisted men able to read and cipher at the second grade level. Anybody know how that's going?
but struggle to support themselves in areas varying from logistics and planning to intelligence-gathering and back-up in difficult battles.

The west officially shifted their role in Afghanistan from combat to support and training in June, and General Dunford said that "time is going to tell" whether that was the correct decision.

His comments highlight a rift between the views of western politicians keen to end a bloody and expensive war and military commanders on the ground who see Afghan forces struggling to cope.

All NATO combat troops are due to leave by 2014, and President Barack Obama
They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them...
has said that in 17 months the transition to Afghan control will be complete, although he has promised a follow up NATO training mission.

However,
those who apply themselves too closely to little things often become incapable of great things...
no firm date has been set for the end of assistance, and General Dunford told the Guardian that western troops may need to remain until 2018 to tackle problems from the air force to intelligence.

"I look at Afghan cops development as really kind of three to five years," General Dunford said, adding that this could include a combat role such as close air support.

The US is currently negotiating a long-term security deal with Kabul to pave the way for wider western co-operation, but Washington has warned that unless a Bilateral Security Agreement is agreed in the next few months they will be forced to remove all their troops.

That could pave the way for a civil war given the state of the economy and the security forces this could pave the way for civil war, it is feared.

Despite the heavy losses the Afghans have managed to remain "resilient," General Dunford added, preventing the Taliban from accomplishing and ensuring 80 per cent of the population is secured from violence.

The Afghan defence ministry no longer publishes monthly corpse counts because of concerns about morale, and the interior ministry said that 1,792 coppers had been killed since March.
Posted by:trailing wife

#10  Redneck Jim, in the front row numbers 2 and 4 have tan magazines, numbers 1 and 3 have dark ones.

Were they also issued bayonets??
Posted by: trailing wife   2013-09-04 22:52  

#9  Methinks in combat, that the color of the magazine doesn't make a difference to the sargeant.
Posted by: Pappy   2013-09-04 22:23  

#8  That picture? You have one person with a tan magazine,(End of the front row Left , right as seen) hardly soldierly, the sergeant will shit.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2013-09-04 19:16  

#7  Anybody remember how that Vietnamization thingy worked out? Lurch is just the SoS to carry out the Afghanization plan. Warm up the Helos!
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2013-09-04 12:25  

#6  Pentagonese for "Plenty more where them came from..."
Posted by: M. Murcek   2013-09-04 08:35  

#5  I thought is his job was to arrange for helicopters on the roof a rapid, managed bug-out draw-down.
Posted by: Pappy   2013-09-04 08:13  

#4  A weakly death toll of 100 may not be bad if they take out 1000 bad guys each week. What's that toll?
Posted by: Skidmark   2013-09-04 07:51  

#3  The problem with Afghanistan is its neighbours Pakistan and Iran.
Posted by: Paul D   2013-09-04 07:42  

#2  The Western political class doesn't have the will to tackle any problems in Afghanistan. It has never had the will.

The (good) arguments against doing anything in Syria apply to Afghanistan also. Precipitous withdrawal is the least awful among awful options.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2013-09-04 03:52  

#1  General Dunford told the Guardian that western troops may need to remain until 2018 to tackle problems from the air force to intelligence.

Dunford won't last long talking like that. He'll likely be replaced very soon.
Posted by: Besoeker   2013-09-04 01:00  

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