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| Military Chaplains Threatened With Arrest If They Celebrate Mass On Bases During Shutdown... |
| 2013-10-05 |
| Excerpt: "With the government shutdown, many [government service] and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work -- not even to volunteer," wrote John Schlageter, the general counsel for the Archdiocese for the Military Services USA, in an op-ed this week. "During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so." ...ugh... |
| Posted by:Uncle Phester |
| #18 Eliminating Constitutional rights of American Soldiers on any military base is a critical component of the anti-Consitutionalists attempt to eliminate said opposition with the help of those forces desensitized to the Constitution. |
| Posted by: Thrans Splat1574 2013-10-05 21:29 |
| #17 Saying mass costs zero money. I'd like to see how they defend this one. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2013-10-05 21:28 |
| #16 the monuments belong TO US |
| Posted by: Frank G 2013-10-05 17:35 |
| #15 The attorney's advice is based on 19th century law designed to prevent employers from pressuring workers to work without pay. While technically true that the contract chaplains COULD be prosecuted for voluntary chaplaincy acts on base, there is no indication that they WOULD. Not sure even the Obama Administration is blind enough to do it. That said, it is time to start forcing the issue at every opportunity, lest they nibble our freedom to nothingness. Logo - raised bolt cutters labeled 'I Will Not Comply' |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2013-10-05 16:27 |
| #14 As I understand it, the volunteer chaplains are free to say Mass - outside of the base. If they are not on Federal property, of course, they are free to say Mass or minister as usual. Just not on base. |
| Posted by: Rambler in Virginia 2013-10-05 16:08 |
| #13 I don't recognize my country anymore. As intended. |
| Posted by: S.A.M. New Delhi Field Office 2013-10-05 14:15 |
| #12 Diocesan attorney reads the rules as barring even volunteer service. May be correct if the volunteerism occurs on base - doubt jurisdiction applies if they have Mass on the side of the road outside the gate. |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2013-10-05 14:09 |
| #11 RiV, is that true or is it only true that they won't be paid for the service as a contractor? If it's a matter of pay, these religious folks should hold all the above mentioned services with as much fanfare as possible gratis. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2013-10-05 13:12 |
| #10 The original article came from CatholicVoter.org, and only mentioned Catholic chaplains saying Mass. I don't know if this also applies to other faiths. Part of the problem is that because of the shortage of priests, there are not enough active duty Catholic chaplains. The priests affected by this order are contractors, not active duty. However, it means if your chaplain is a contractor, he can't say Mass, baptize your baby, hear confessions, or perform weddings. |
| Posted by: Rambler in Virginia 2013-10-05 12:50 |
| #9 I don't recognize my country anymore. Shutting out the veterans from the memorials and this religious persecution. I am so angry. |
| Posted by: Jan 2013-10-05 11:39 |
| #8 Notice to the Executive Branch and Military Officers Freedom of Religion is a right of ALL American Citizens All members of the military are under oath to uphold the constitution that guarantees that right. Any attempt to circumvent those rights will result in punishment. This is non-negotiable. |
| Posted by: Thrans Splat1574 2013-10-05 11:02 |
| #7 King John demands suffering! |
| Posted by: Woodrow Guelph8541 2013-10-05 10:45 |
| #6 Yellow arm bands anyone ? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2013-10-05 09:45 |
| #5 Steve S, the only problem with "Bad Optics" is that the MSM will never show them and the only people who would see them on line already think this is a regime not a gov't OBAFTP, a self-selecting group. Unless violence starts breaking out on a significant level any protest will be white noise. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2013-10-05 09:19 |
| #4 But it's still ok for Muslims to perform their religious duties right? Like killing infidels and jews? |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2013-10-05 08:25 |
| #3 Suck My Ass Obama. |
| Posted by: newc 2013-10-05 02:23 |
| #2 Illegal to minister to the faithful, even on their own time? These people have no idea what they have started. Bad optics does not even begin to describe it. But on the bright side, it might provide a welcom distraction from the Obamacare server meltdown. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2013-10-05 02:17 |
| #1 Priests, Dare them to arrest you. You are doing God's work, not the criminal thug Obama. confront evil and refuse to yield to it - the souls of the soldiers depend on you to deliver them communion and confession and other sacraments. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2013-10-05 01:13 |