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Home Front: Politix
Senate approves nuclear option
2013-11-21
The Senate has voted to change its rules so that a simple majority is required to confirm judicial nominations and executive branch picks -- the so-called "nuclear option."

The final vote was 52-48. The previous threshold was 60 votes to bring such nominations to a final up-or-down vote.

"The threshold for cloture on nominations not including the Supreme Court, is now a majority," Sen Pat Leahy (D-Vt.), the Senate president pro tempore, declared after the vote.

Three Democrats voted with Republicans against the change: Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark.). Levin is a longtime senator; Manchin and Pryor come from red states.
To about 1840 or so the House also had a version of the filibuster. It wasnÂ’t quite the same as the Senate but by rule and decorum, one needed a super-majority to move bills through.

From then up to the 1890s there was a variant of this called the “disappearing quorum”: the House needed a super-majority to make a quorum, so the minority party if disciplined enough would refuse to answer whenever a quorum just happened to be called, causing everything to stop. Then House Speaker Reed (a Pub) said, “The best system is to have one party govern and the other party watch”, and set about to eliminate this, and he did. The Democrats howled but the Pubs prevailed, and so now we have a modern House in which 218 yea votes makes things happen.

I shall suggest that it is time for the Senate filibuster to disappear completely.

Yes, I believe that major changes in our government should be done on a bipartisan basis: Social Security. Medicare. Civil Rights Bill. Decision to go to war in Iraq. And so on. Our countryÂ’s parties should agree on the big things.

But if the Democrats are going to behave like monkeys at a zoo then Speaker Reed is right: one party governs, the other opposes. And the party that is in power has the RESPONSIBILITY to govern wisely or else end up out of power.

The lack of a filibuster will hurt the next fourteen months. But the public (I predict) will see how the Democrats govern, and in a year the public shall vote. Eliminating the filibuster removes the one big excuse Harry Reid has had in his time as majority leader, that he couldnÂ’t get anything done because those eeeeeevil Rethuglicans wouldnÂ’t let him.

Okay Harry, letÂ’s see your real agenda. I think the American people will figure out what youÂ’re up to and will decide to oppose you, particularly if the Pubs are smart enough (and remember, weÂ’re called the Stupid Party for a reason) to hoist him on his petard next October.

Budget? No excuse now, they have to pass a budget. Raving red lunatics for the appeals courts? Make clear that theyÂ’re loonies. And so on.

How is it the Pubs can win the House and win most state district and senate races (the Pubs do hold a sizable majority in the state legislatures right now), and yet lose Senate races? Because Dingy Harry, Chuckles Schumer, and Dirty Dick Durbin have managed to keep power and avoid responsibility.

No longer. Now theyÂ’re responsible, 50% + 1.

I predict they shall be called on it in November 2014.
Posted by:Glenmore

#14  Let's call it what it is: OBAMAZUELA
Posted by: regular joe   2013-11-21 21:49  

#13  Remember, Harry. The wheel turns. The wheel turns...
Posted by: tu3031   2013-11-21 21:20  

#12  Senator Carl Levin quoted today:

"But Democrats have used the filibuster in the past, and “changing the rules by fiat” means that “there are no rules” in the Senate any longer,” he said. “Today we are once again moving down a destructive path,” Levin said.

Yes indeed. One need only read a history of the transition of Rome from republic to empire to understand this very point. It didn't happen in a day or a decade; it took about a century. But it happened because very partisan people were willing to change the rules of the game to take care of their own short-term interests, and locked themselves into patron-client relationships to distribute power and spoils, and were willing to use violence and the ruination of fortune and reputation against others to get what they wanted.

Sound familiar?

To borrow from Mr. Twain, history may not repeat but it sure does rhyme.
Posted by: Steve White   2013-11-21 21:17  

#11  I think that a lot of suggestions are valid. The problem is the personnel in the Senate and the House. They cannot reform themselves. They are too vested in the logrolling vote buying way of doing business. They need to be gone and replaced with independents. We literally cannot afford the current crop any more.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2013-11-21 19:57  

#10  Let them repeal anything with 50%, but require more than that to pass something new. Oh, and every law sunsets after no more than ten years.
Posted by: rammer   2013-11-21 19:22  

#9  Tieing up the lefts hands any way possible works for me.
Posted by: Guillibaldo McCoy1948   2013-11-21 19:14  

#8  I'll do you one better AP. How about 2/3 to pass anything and a bare majority to repeal.
Posted by: Iblis   2013-11-21 19:01  

#7  The system of the 60% majority was not really bad. I did not like the filibuster. How about this for your Rantburg consideration:

How about a 60% majority voting on everything but treaties? Then a lot of chaff falls by the wayside. The only weakness is vote trading, but we have that anyway.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2013-11-21 18:02  

#6  Those raving red looney judges hurt real bad.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2013-11-21 16:19  

#5  "The lack of a filibuster will hurt the next fourteen months."

...there are going to be judges appointed who shall continue the hurt a lot further out than fourteen months...
Posted by: Uncle Phester   2013-11-21 16:08  

#4  Obviously we can use this too, but I suspect that McConnell is stupid enough to reinstate the filibuster if he's handed the reins.

This assumes he survives his primary challenge and gets reelected.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man   2013-11-21 15:45  

#3  The beauty of the filibuster is that it slows things down - and often stops them. That's a good thing. The less government does the better. If something really needs to be done then it will get 60 votes in favor.

Obviously we can use this too, but I suspect that McConnell is stupid enough to reinstate the filibuster if he's handed the reins.
Posted by: Iblis   2013-11-21 15:14  

#2  Harry Reid seems to assume that the Dems will have a permanent majority in the Senate. Payback is a hitch.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia   2013-11-21 15:10  

#1  I can only hope the moderator comments are right. But at this point I believe everything is fucked too badly to be fixed. It needs completely torn down and started over.
Posted by: DarthVader   2013-11-21 14:24  

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