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Norway: Somalis face prejudice and exclusion
2013-12-13
[Shabelle] A new report into Somali integration in Oslo has found immigrants from the east African nation often feel excluded from Norwegian society, and must battle against prejudice and stereotyping. School absenteeism and dropout rates are higher for Somalis than other immigrant groups, and employment rates remain very low.
'Nother words, they live up to the prejudice and stereotyping? Well, tut.
The Open Society Foundation's (OSF) 'At Home in Europe' project investigated Somali integration in Oslo, Malmö, Helsinki, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, London and Leicester. The report found Somalis make up Oslo's third-largest immigrant group, and are one of the largest refugee groups coming into Norway.

"Many are working hard to be accepted as Norwegian citizens," OSF Director Nazia Hussain told newspaper Aftenposten. "Compared to the other European cities, Norwegian Somalis are characterized by a strong commitment to participation in and belonging to the community."

Despite these efforts, researchers found the group lacks a sense of inclusion. About 80 per cent of Somalis are under 40 years of age, and 80 per cent of second-generation Somali-Norwegian children are under 10. The youth aren't seen as Norwegians, but no longer identify solely as Somalian. Education is vital for integration, yet Somali students have an above average drop-out rate and a higher absentee rate than both the general population and other immigrant groups. Language and cultural difficulties make it hard for parents to help children with their studies.
Posted by:Fred

#8  Is it true that the US has some 3 million Moslems living here?

No. Somewhere between 1.6 million and 2.1 million. There used to be more, but there was a rush for the exits when Muslim men were required to register after the 9/11 attacks. Some went to Canada, more went home. There was an NPR report on them in 2002, and most of those leaving had overstayed their visas, mostly student visas.
Posted by: trailing wife   2013-12-13 20:39  

#7  I'm pretty sure the Irish faced similar issues in the US.[etc]

As some of you know, Minneapolis has a fairly large Somali community. We are chosen as a place to settle refugees because of our welcoming attitudes. Vietnamese, Meo and Cambodians all came here and prospered.

The Somalis are different. This is in contrast to the Nigerian and Liberian communities that have embraced the middle class (and become Republicans). Some Somalis do work hard, learn English and are accepted by their fellow Minnesotans. But others do not attempt to learn English, stay in their own ghettos and do not look for jobs.

Somalis are a major problem for police with a group calling itself RTS (for "Rough Tough Somalis") being a major contributor to violent crime. One problem is that feuds from Somalia can spill over to the US. Also, if they can't kill an enemy, they'll kill his family instead.
Posted by: frozen Al   2013-12-13 11:44  

#6  The Israih did not consider themselves a Herrens Volk and did not consider themselves as brothers of some morytal enemy of the United States?
Posted by: JFM   2013-12-13 09:32  

#5  I'm pretty sure the Irish faced similar issues in the US. And the Italians. Germans. Greeks. Poles. Russians. Pretty much all those obstacles were overcome by hard work and time.
Posted by: Bobby   2013-12-13 08:23  

#4  And do many of them enlist to fight for the United States?

...as say, the number who've left to join the jihad?

I suspect the latter has had more volunteers.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-12-13 08:21  

#3  Is it true that the US has some 3 million Moslems living here? And do many of them enlist to fight for the United States? How many have joined the USMarines, for instance.

I remember two who were very good Marines at Quantico but they were Lebanese and were Dervishes...Christian Phalangists politically. We just called them Dervishes, they both did the O Course in very good time.

Posted by: Spereting Tingle4064   2013-12-13 05:15  

#2  Liberalism is a lot easier at a distance.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2013-12-13 02:44  

#1  I really don't care how long you plan on staying. Folks around here are really never going to warm up to you.

Posted by: Besoeker   2013-12-13 00:52  

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