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| The conflict in the Middle East is far bigger than Isis and al-Qa'eda |
| 2014-06-18 |
| h/t Gates of Vienna ...The Middle East is not simply falling apart. It is taking a different shape, along very clear lines — far older ones than those the western powers rudely imposed on the region nearly a century ago. Across the whole continent those borders are in the process of cracking and breaking. But while that happens the region’s two most ambitious centres of power — the house of Saud and the Ayatollahs in Iran — find themselves fighting each other not just for influence but even, perhaps, for survival. Whatever happened to "Arab Israeli Peace Process"? |
| Posted by:g(r)omgoru |
| #11 OOOOPPPPSSS, my bad, forgot FREEREPUBLIC > [Slate] AL-QAIDA HISTORIAN: ISIS' NEAR-TERM GOAL IS "VAST WAR WIDIN ISLAM". and * RUSSIA TODAY > "DEADLY DANGER": UK + GERMANY WARN OF ISLAMIST FIGHTERS' PLAN TO ATTACK IN EUROPE. [Once again, 1960-70's = 2014 TOM CRUISE'S NEW FLICK "EDGE OF TOMORROW" here]. Ditto as per coming Leaving-the-Earth new movie "INTERSTELLAR", or as I = MADONNA? intrepete it = "IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE GLOBAL/WORDWIDE ISLAMIC CONQUEST, A HANDFUL OF NON-MUSLIMS DECIDE THEY MUST LEAVE A TROUBLED, REPRESSIVE EARTH INTO SPACE IN ORDER TO SAVE HUMANITY + FREEDOM". But I digress ... ... |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2014-06-18 23:12 |
| #10 E.G. BIGNEWSNETWORK > [VOA News[ IRAQI MILITANTS CONQUER TERRITORY, AIM FOR BORDERLESS CALIPHATE. Whoa, the ISIS/ISIL Hard Boyz want NAU-like, post-2015? "borderless" anti-sovereign OWG Global Fed Union in Iraq + beyond - WHO KNEW??? |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2014-06-18 22:59 |
| #9 IMO the ISIS/ISIL-led Battle for Iraq has finally caused the West to recognize that Radical Islam's Jihad is a GLOBAL JIHAD AKA GLOBAL MOHAMEDDAN CONQUEST. "Better late than never", I guess. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2014-06-18 21:07 |
| #8 Oh, and the Kurds claim the capital is Kirkuk - they have traditionally have it as part of their ethnic area, as well as parts of the neighboring provinces. That map must have been drawn by a Turk. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2014-06-18 21:02 |
| #7 That map is dead wrong. At least int he North. Kurdish state will be larger - it will include Kirkuk, and more of the territory NW of Mosul - right up to the river bank. Thats Kurd/Turcomen area. And they do already have de-facto control of that territory with the Peshmerga in and around there. And the Shia will not let go of Baghdad and the surrounding area due to religious shrines and Shia majority populations in some of those cities to the N/W of Baghdad. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2014-06-18 20:54 |
| #6 It is taking a different shape, along very clear lines Iraq has fragmented: The Islamic State of ISIS is born. Kurdistan is all but established. Shiastan seems to have taken shape radiating out from the oil rich port city of Basra. I could imagine Turkey retaking its former province and city of Mosul especially with its fall to ISIS. Iran may be tempted to reclaim former Persian lands west of Shatt Al-Arab. ISIS is consolidating its territorial gains from East Syria with its gains in Iraq. It's to be seen IF Assad wins, will he try to re-incoporate parts of Lebanon into a Greater Syria. How long can Jordan stay out of it? King Abdullah II can't be thrilled to be ISIS's bucket list. |
| Posted by: mossomo 2014-06-18 14:54 |
| #5 And so it is that a Middle Eastern proxy-war Looks like it. Iraq's location makes a good battle space between the two jockeying powers. And its central geography allows all the regions states to easily be pulled in.  |
| Posted by: mossomo 2014-06-18 14:49 |
| #4 That could be a problem. However, nothing is being done about that now. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2014-06-18 14:13 |
| #3 What happens when the region's "centres of power" go nuclear? |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-06-18 11:22 |
| #2 Oh, I forgot, we have a feckless-in-chief head of state and a do-nothing Congress. I just gave way to my musings this a.m. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2014-06-18 09:12 |
| #1 Not all bad, the herds are being thinned. We have to get away from the meddling, do-gooder, attitude of trying to fix the Mideast and trying to bring about peace. We do need to communicate to them in no uncertain terms that if they screw with us again, its all over for them--it will not be nation building next time. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2014-06-18 09:09 |