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U.S. Senate Provision on NASA Seen as Hurting SpaceX
2014-06-18
A U.S. Senate proposal tied to the NASA spending bill may thwart efforts by Elon Musk's space venture while aiding Boeing Co. (BA), the government's No. 2 contractor, a trade group president said today.

The seven-line provision would require companies seeking contracts to ferry astronauts to the International Space Station to file detailed financial reports justifying their costs. The Senate bill for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1 includes $805 million for the program.
The art of Weasel wording contracts to exclude competitors is alive and well. And is the program going to produce $805 million or more in savings? Ha!
Newer contractors such as Musk's Space Exploration Technologies Corp. and Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin LLC will be at a disadvantage, Michael Lopez-Alegria, president of the Washington-based Commercial Spaceflight Federation, said in a Bloomberg Television interview. The measure would increase their costs because they would have to expand accounting staffs to do the work, he said.

The smaller companies don't have "quite the army in place to do those calculations," while Boeing is probably "best equipped" because it's so large, he said.

The space organization represents companies such as Hawthorne, California-based SpaceX and Kent, Washington-based Blue Origin. Boeing, which is also competing for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's commercial crew program, isn't a member of the federation.
Posted by:Squinty

#17  Gorb, you are just full of helpful advice.
Posted by: Grampaw Snore6263   2014-06-18 21:41  

#16  Move to Canada.
Posted by: gorb   2014-06-18 21:32  

#15  From the discussion on NASASpaceFlight.com
Quote from: JF on 06/11/2014 01:20 PM
At least Mr. Sowers screwed up enough courage to post his viewpoint here. Did he listen to anyone but himself? Will he respond to fact based objections? Nahh.
TBF he did respond a few times. I'm not sure if they were to substantive questions however.
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Shelby will not post here; his position is indefensible, and he could not make any rational line of reasoning to support the positions he is taking, and would, in an ideal instance of the universe, have to admit the false premises underlying his virtually complete track record in his long term evisceratiion our nation's HSF capabilities, not to mention a good possibility of not getting any such capability back within the next few decades.
His "rationale" can be summed up in 2 words. "Marshall" and "Decata," with a side order of Alabama U. (go "The Crimson Tide" What ???)

I'm fairly sure he less about if the rest of NASA imploded as long as they, and the centres that support them, were preserved (Yes I'm aware Decata is not a NASA facility).

Keep in mind that that is exactly in line with his responsibilities of keeping the cash flowing to his state. :(
It's what the people who employ him want.

Wheather it's in line with his responsibilities for the good of the nation as a whole is another matter. :( I thought members of Congress were meant to swear some kind of oath to support the whole nation, not just the region they were elected to represent, but my education on that side of things has been fairly minimal.

The Space Access Society are more charitable. They feel a lot of this is that members of Congress basically still see NASA though the rose tinted backvision of the mid 1960's, when every mission was an exploration missions, as so little was known the environment (both LEO and Lunar) and how well (if?) the equipment they had been issued with would function.

So if people want a more sensible space programme (and a better NASA) I guess they have to engage with their bit of Congress, find out what they think about NASA and start to (gently) correct their misconceptions ("No sir 'Armageddon' was not a dramatization of real events") about it. :(

One Senator can stop the Shelby amendments cold. It all begins with one.
Posted by: 3dc   2014-06-18 19:12  

#14  and on RT with Congressman Dana Rohrabacher
Posted by: 3dc   2014-06-18 18:42  

#13   On NBC
Posted by: 3dc   2014-06-18 18:36  

#12  This scares them!
Posted by: 3dc   2014-06-18 18:32  

#11  Guess which one wins?

The politicians?
Posted by: DarthVader   2014-06-18 16:48  

#10  One company invests in Research and Innovation and hiring top talent to create a new, cheaper, more efficient and innovative product.

The other company invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and senators.

Guess which one wins?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2014-06-18 14:09  

#9  Gotta wonder if the reason Boeing needs an army of accountants is so they can hide all the bribes. SpaceX might not be at such a disadvantage after all.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2014-06-18 11:58  

#8  The R or D is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the graft and corruption.

......and if that doesn't work, we'll simply tell the proles that a computer crashed and we lost two years worth of e-mails.
Posted by: Besoeker   2014-06-18 09:18  

#7  Shelby is just another member of the Beltway Party. The R or D is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the graft and corruption.
Posted by: AlanC   2014-06-18 09:14  

#6  If I were Elon I'd ignore it, forget about government contracts, and do all the commercial space lifting to make Boeing irrelevant.
Posted by: Steve White   2014-06-18 08:41  

#5  Were I Elon, I would make a lot of noise about this at every opportunity.
Posted by: gorb   2014-06-18 07:02  

#4  And as fast as you could say "regulatory capture".........
Posted by: no mo uro   2014-06-18 04:55  

#3  Just because the Jerk has a (R) next to his name it doesn't mean he has the welfare of the nation as his goal.
Posted by: 3dc   2014-06-18 03:01  

#2  Would somebody please not elect Shelby again and a few other idiots. Please think before voting.
Posted by: 3dc   2014-06-18 02:40  

#1  When you can't compete on the merits bribe a Senator to tilt the table in your favor.
Posted by: Squinty   2014-06-18 00:58  

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