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| Most Bodies Recovered from MH17, Downed Over Ukraine |
| 2014-07-21 |
| [VOA News] The Ukrainian government says 219 bodies have been recovered from the site where a Malaysian airliner crashed after being shot down on Thursday, as well as what they believe are parts of 28 additional bodies. That would leave 51 of the people on the plane still unaccounted for. Also, a European delegation was given access to the bodies and the crash site in a rebel-held area of eastern Ukraine. There are still conflicting reports over whether pro-Russian rebels or Ukrainian officials have control over the collected remains. According to some sources, rebels took possession of many of them following their collection by personnel from Ukraine's Emergencies Ministry, who were granted access to the site by the separatists. According to some reports, many of the bodies are currently in three refrigerated railway cars in the town of Torez, not far from the crash site. Quoting a bigwig of the authorities in Kyiv, Ukrainian media are reporting that negotiations are currently underway to have the bodies transported to territory under Ukrainian government control, possibly to the city of Kharkiv. 'Gruesome' It is a gruesome and sad scene in a Ukrainian farm field, said Michael Bociurkiw of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, who spoke to news hounds in Kyiv via mobile phone. "We are looking right now at engine parts and parts of the fuselage. It appears to me that this could be the main section, the mid-section, of the aircraft. And we are also seeing emergency workers picking over a very difficult patch of impact, where there is a lot of debris and body parts and banged up bodies put together." |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #8 Russian Medias-Bloggers have been busy protratying the Ukraine as wayward or bastard children of the Vikings, the Teutonic Knights, Prussia, + Hitler's Waffen SS. ITV, iff Russia can control GERMANY = MERKEL, ETAL. espec by not allowing Germany to possess Nukes it will still control the Ukraine. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2014-07-21 23:02 |
| #7 Assassinate Putin? Maybe you want WWIII but I don't. The Russians and Ukrainians have unfinished business. It's been going on for centuries. MH17 got caught in the cross fire. That is most regrettable but it is NOT a cause for us to go to war with Russia. Putin could be every bit as pathological as Stalin but even so he must understand that MH17 is bad PR and bad for business. He did not personally pull the trigger and most likely he is pissed off because one of his boys did. He's trying to keep this low level proxy war of his under the radar and MH17 isn't helping. |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2014-07-21 12:11 |
| #6 hello TW true Putin was head of the KGB and must be quite wiley this is someone who can poison people with Polonium in a restaurant... in London! mmm Besoeker, answered the question i was thinking but didn't articulate properly. I guess with Putin gone the Russian proles would just put another one in hello JohnQC and Rambler - yes the convention is not to assassinate heads of state, even without an EO to formalise it. I mean if we just went around killing heads of state nobody would be safe. It would be an outrage. |
| Posted by: anon1 2014-07-21 10:24 |
| #5 Reagan did sign E.O. 12333. However, there were many influences in developing this order, some national and some international such as the UN and other groups. Previously, EO 11905 (Gerald Ford) had banned political assassinations and EO 12036 (Jimmy Carter) had further banned indirect U.S. involvement in assassinations. The Church Commission also had a hand in shaping policy. A good discussion of this development is Here. After 9/11, there was somewhat of a rollback into what we have today--targeted killing. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2014-07-21 09:45 |
| #4 Besides which, Executive Order 12333 - issued by Reagan in 1981 - prohibits assassination. |
| Posted by: Rambler in Virginia 2014-07-21 08:58 |
| #3 Putin's popularity among Russian citizens is at an all time high. I'm afraid the problem is far greater than Putin. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2014-07-21 07:46 |
| #2 The CIA never managed to assassinate Fidel Castro, Anon1. How do you think they'd fare, trying to get past the KGB to reach the former head of the KGB himself? |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2014-07-21 06:46 |
| #1 Hello there all, hello Old Spook... Vis a vis getting rid of Putin. I don't see how icing Putin is much different to icing Osama Bin Laden? One is a crime boss at the head of a state, the other a crime boss at the head of a religious transnational body. The only real difference seems to be one of geographic borders. Putin is responsible for a war crime, why can't he just go down? |
| Posted by: Anon1 2014-07-21 00:30 |