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Home Front: Politix
Shutdown Talk Grows In GOP
2014-11-18
[TheHill] Conservative House Republicans say they're willing to shut down the government to prevent President B.O. from carrying out what they see as unconstitutional actions on immigration.

Tea Party politicians emboldened by the GOP's big midterm gains say they will insist on attaching a policy rider to legislation keeping the government open that would block funding for agencies carrying out Obama's promised executive actions limiting deportations.

If the Democratic Senate or Obama rejects the rider, the government could shut down. A current measure funding the government expires on Dec. 12.

"I am insisting on that [rider] because the president is violating his executive privilege," GOP Rep. Paul Gosar, who represents the border state of Arizona, said in an interview Friday.

The call to arms by conservatives is a challenge for GOP leaders in both chambers, who also oppose executive action by Obama but acknowledge they have not settled on a plan to stop it.

"There's no decision on the strategy, but we know for one thing that the president should not move forward," Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy
...the GOP house majority whip. He replaces Eric Cantor, who got whupped because his politix are like Kevin McCarthy's...
 (R-Calif.) told news hounds Friday.
Frame the bill: pass the usual bill for Homeland Security minus the funding for these parts. Put that with appropriate riders and language into a separate bill -- not an amendment, a separate bill -- and send the big bill to Champ. If he signs, DHS is funded minus the money for his escapade. If he vetoes, DHS has nothing. Tell him that once the big bill is signed we'll talk about the remaining money.
It's unclear what Obama will do, but reports this week that he is considering expanding an existing program that defers the deportation of children who entered the U.S. illegally to both their parents and additional children have provoked outrage on the right. Obama's proposals could give legal status to 5 million people, some reports suggest.

Incoming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) vowed Thursday that Republicans would not shut down the government or default on the nation's debt.
Correct: just that one little part of the government. Remove as much of DHS from consideration as you can.
But hours later, Speaker John It is not pronounced 'Boner!' Boehner
... the occasionally weepy leader of House Republicans...
 (R-Ohio), fresh off winning another two years in the top spot, said the GOP would "fight tooth and nail" to stop Obama and that all options remained on the table.
Good cop, bad cop...
Senior GOP aides said the Republican response could be a combination of blocking executive-branch nominees when Republicans take over the Senate next year and expanding a GOP lawsuit against Obama to cover his immigration action.

More moderate Republicans are trying to talk their conservative colleagues down from the ledge, warning that the GOP surely will be blamed for another shutdown. Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers (R-Ky.) is plowing ahead with a clean omnibus package that would keep the government open through September 2015.
In other words, real political sausage is being made, as our elected representatives do their best to represent the views of those who elected them.
If the omnibus bill excludes this part of immigration it's great -- again, put that in a separate bill. Let Champ be the one whose veto shuts down the government.
Posted by:trailing wife

#7  we got the acts; but so far I haven't seen any action from the GOP. They are all hat and no saddle. Boner needs to go; worthless as tits on a boar.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2014-11-18 14:34  

#6  We do need an act. That will maybe curb Obean and at least keep him tied up for awhile waiting for a SCOTUS decision.
Posted by: JohnQC   2014-11-18 13:25  

#5  We need an act to curb this executive discretion.
Posted by: gorb   2014-11-18 11:47  

#4  What Mike Kozlowski said. Basically, the onus needs to be put on Obama and apparatchiks. Otherwise, get on with the death by a thousand cuts strategy.
Posted by: JohnQC   2014-11-18 10:14  

#3  .. if Congress says, "SSA payments continue" and the White House says, "No, they don't," the White House is going to be the ones with some 'splainin to do.

It's already been done. It's just the Permanent Party Propaganda Machine won't let the word out to the 'stupid Americans' (whose 'stupidity' is serviced by said PPPM, it's a feature, not a bug).

Controlling both houses, you can do selective shutdown by approving the funding specified by the authorization bills. Fund DoD, Fed Prisons, etc. Hold EPA, DoE et al.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2014-11-18 08:27  

#2  ...Maybe it's just not this easy, but it seems to me that the FIRST thing the Pubs need to do is pass the Governmental Services Priority Act (or some other appropriate name) that details to the letter what government services are to continue and which ones don't during a shutdown, and in what priority they are to continue. Seems to me that if Congress says, "SSA payments continue" and the White House says, "No, they don't," the White House is going to be the ones with some 'splainin to do.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2014-11-18 05:59  

#1  Yup, just do not fund illegal stuff the champ wants to do, and fund the rest of the government. It is quite that easy, or you are quite AS USELESS.
Posted by: newc   2014-11-18 02:26  

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