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China-Japan-Koreas
Another view on the Chinese economy
2014-12-09
[Barrons]
People are crazy if they believe any government statistics, which, of course, are largely fabricated. In China, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle of physics holds sway, whereby the mere observation of economic numbers changes their behavior. For a time we started to look at numbers like electric-power production and freight traffic to get a line on actual economic growth because no one believed the gross- domestic-product figures. It didn’t take long for Beijing to figure this out and start doctoring those numbers, too.

I put much stock in estimates by various economists, including some at the Conference Board, that actual Chinese GDP is probably a third lower than is officially reported. And as for the recent International Monetary Fund report calling China the world’s biggest economy on a purchasing-power-parity basis, how silly was that? China is a cheap place to live if one is willing to eat rice, cabbage, and pork, but it’s expensive as all get out once you factor in the cost of decent housing, a car, and health care.

I’d be shocked if China is currently growing at a rate above, say, 4%, and any growth at all is coming from financial services, which ultimately depend on sustained growth in the rest of the economy.
Posted by:Anguper Hupomosing9418

#5  Based on recent MSM-Net Artics + Pert Commentaries, IMO Beijing is getting really worried that Chinese-style Communism-Socialism = Maoism will not be able to prevent [USSR-style?]econ collapse in the Near-Term.

That various + differentiated, internal + external pressures are becom so great that China must seriously consider unilaterally halting its National Modernization + Geopol agenda, etc. in order to maintain traditional One-Party, Marxist-Maoist-Communist Rule.

> National, Geopol Modernization.
> OWG Globalist, China-desired control of East Asia + 1/2 of Pacific vee US by China [China = WESTPAC, US = EASTPAC + US West Coast].

Maha-Rushian Histoire' would argue that China's only other recourse would be to wage war.

* TOPIX > [Daily Caller] THE GATHERING DANGER OF OBAMA'S LAME DUCK FOREIGN POLICY.

* DRUDGEREPORT > [Independent.UK] RISK OF NUCLEAR WAR RISING BECAUSE OF GLOBAL TENSIONS AND INSECURITY.

* TOPIX, DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > CHINA'S S-400 ADS [Russia-supplied] CAN COVER TAIWAN, from China's mainland.

* SAME > STRONGER MAINLAND [China = Beijing] WILL ASSERT MORE PULL OVER HONG KONG, TAIWAN.

* REALTED JAPAN TIMES > IS BEIJING BROACHING THE [Sino-UK] "JOINT DECLARATION"?, on Hong Kong.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [WantChinaTimes = DefenceNews Daily] US F-35 POSES THREAT TO CHINA'S LIAONING [Aircraft Carrier = CVT, BG], BUT CAN'T DEFEAT IT ALONE:EXPERT.

Wang Mingzhi, Strategist for PLAAF Command College.

* WORLD NEWS > CHINA READY TO ARM [newest] STEALTH SUBS WID [LR SLBMS, Anti-US] NUCLEAR MISSLES.

In case Globalist POTUS Obama has second thoughts + won't get out = surrender East Asia + Guam-WESTPAC [1/2 Pacific] to Beijing.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2014-12-09 22:59  

#4  ...before the next revolution / rebellion / barbarian invasion / plaque outbreak / etc.

I used to worry about plaque outbreaks, but then I got dentures and all my plaque problems went away. 8-)
Posted by: Woozle Scourge of the Wee Folk4194   2014-12-09 13:48  

#3  Another view?
The view that China is sputtering out seems to be the consensus outside the Wall St. cheerleading squad. Even the big smart money knows China is going to have to rebalance. The question is, will it be orderly?
Posted by: bigjim-CA   2014-12-09 13:07  

#2   China has a long tradition of "getting the h**l out of Dodge" (or whatever the Chinese equivalent may be) before the next revolution / rebellion / barbarian invasion / plaque outbreak / etc. With all the centuries of these experiences, this premonition may now be programmed into the Han genome.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418    2014-12-09 11:43  

#1  All you have to see is the number of Chinese who want to go somewhere else to seek their fortune. That tells you about what they think about economic conditions at home.
Posted by: ed in texas   2014-12-09 08:35  

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