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Britain
'UK benefited from Saudi torture to stop attack'
2015-03-02
[Iran Press TV] A fresh report says the British government used real-time torture in Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face...
to prevent al-Qaeda kabooms in 2010.

According to the Independent, the former head of the UK Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, has said torturing suspected Lions of Islam produces "useful information," and that "real-time" intelligence was obtained via torture in Saudi Arabia to help thwart a terrorist bombing on British soil some years ago. John Sawers also defended the UK security services against reports that torture played a role in the radicalizing of British Moslems.

The report said the discovery of a printer cartridge bomb on a UPS cargo aircraft at the East Midlands airport was made possible in 2010, only because two British government officials in Saudi Arabia were in "immediate communication" with a team using "torture" to interrogate an al-Qaeda operative.

The terror plot was to use cartridge bombs to bring down two aircraft over the eastern United States. However,
today is that tomorrow you were thinking about yesterday...
British authorities intercepted the first device at the cargo airport hub after what they described as a "tip-off" from Saudi Arabia.

A second device was intercepted aboard a freight plane in Dubai; both aircraft had started their trips in Yemen.

There was reportedly a frantic search prompted by "two or three" calls to Saudi Arabia after the tip-off, with security services battling to find the device. French security sources revealed the device was within 17 minutes of detonating when bomb disposal teams disarmed it.

One intelligence source said: "The people in London went back on the phone two or three times to where the interrogation was taking place in Riyadh to find out specifically where the bomb was hidden. There were two Britons there, in immediate communication with where the interrogation was taking place, and as soon as anything happened, they were in touch with the UK. It was all done in real time."

Now London-based political commentator Professor Rodney Shakespeare believes the British government is part of the problem itself as, "firstly, it is an outrage that they justify torture when it is known that it does not work.
How is that "known?" They've just described an incidence where it does work. But don't believe the evidence of your lying eyes. Professor Shakespeare's an Expertâ„¢ so we should go by his opinion.
The point is once you have tortured, you have destroyed the values of the society you are trying to protect."
To protect society from the likes of the people who killed Daniel Pearl or perpetrated 9-11 or the London bus kabooms I'd be perfectly willing to skin the turban with a blunt butter knife and rub him down with salt from head to toe. If they don't abide by the rules of war then they forfeit any call upon those same rules.
Professor Shakespeare told Press TV's UK Desk in a Sunday interview that confessions under duress were also usually misleading as the victims could concoct stories under pressure.
Except that information doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's also harder to maintain consistency in a lie under duress. If the information's concocted then it's back to the barbecue fork and the rubber gloves.
Posted by:Fred

#4  Coming from people who'd be perfectly happy to use torture on their domestic opposition, this is rich.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-03-02 12:15  

#3  Better headline:
Saudi Torture saves hundreds of lives!


Read some of the comments at the link... these people are totally delusional.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2015-03-02 11:06  

#2  Moral of teh story? Red is positive, black is negative, and the feet should be fully in the water

I'll sleep well tonite
Posted by: Frank G   2015-03-02 09:49  

#1  Wait until YOU are fired upon, wait until the pizzeria YOUR children use to go to is bombed, wait until they a bomb is discovered bomb on the rails the train YOU and YOUR children was going to go upon, wait until you learn terrorists have tried to set a bomb in a MATERNITY. Then we will see if you are still aadamantly against torture.

PS: Several of the things mentionned above have happened to me either as a child or as an adult. It is the terrorists not us who ahev broken the barreers of civilized behavior. And to the fellow traveers idiots who tell we should treat them honorably because otherwise we would descend to their level I reply that I prefer to retaliate in kind and dirty my hands rather than to be defeaeted and me or my children being killed or enslaved. And the Ward Chrurchills, Miachel Moores and simlilar scum can go to f.. themselves.
Posted by: JFM   2015-03-02 03:56  

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