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Iraq
Iranians suffer embarrassing defeat in Iraq
2015-03-28
The Iranians have suffered a humiliating defeat.

More than 20,000 fighters with Iranian-backed Shiite militias have withdrawn from the 3-week-old battle to oust Islamic State militants from the Iraqi city of Tikrit.

And the Iraqis have turned back to the U.S. military for help.
When you positively need something destroyed in 30 minutes or less.
U.S. aircraft launched airstrikes in Tikrit on Wednesday for the first time since the battle began, providing vital military support that came only after the Iraqi government agreed to seize command and control of the fight on the ground and temporarily halt operations of Iranian-backed militias.

"The Shiite militias that were there have pulled back from that area," Army Gen. Lloyd Austin, the chief of U.S. Central Command, said Thursday on Capitol Hill.

"Preconditions for us to provide support were that the Iraqi government had to be in charge of this operation. We had to know exactly who was on the ground," Austin said.

On Wednesday night, U.S. and coalition aircraft unleashed 17 airstrikes on Islamic State targets in Tikrit, destroying buildings, bridges, checkpoints, staging areas and a command and control facility.

The start of U.S. airstrikes in Tikrit punctuated an intense geopolitical drama that began three weeks ago when the Iraqi government stunned many American military officials by mounting a massive effort to seize the strategically important city without asking the U.S. for help.

The Iraqis instead sought large-scale, open military support from Iran, whose Shiite regime is a strong ally of Iraq's Shiite-led government in Baghdad.
There is your first mistake
The Iranian-funded militias of Iraqi Shiites far outnumbered the Iraqi government's own military forces, U.S. officials said.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps provided tanks and artillery, and Iran's most powerful military leader, Gen. Qasem Soleimani, gave TV interviews from the front lines in Tirkit.

Yet the Iranian-backed effort stalled and Islamic State forces continue to hold the city.
Small guess here, but I doubt the Iranians are trained in good combined arms tactics to make use of infantry and armor working together in a city environ ment
"It shows that, for the Iraqis to do what they want to do, they really need American support ... they can't do this with just the Iranians," said Adam Tiffen, a member of the Truman National Security Project's Defense Council and an Iraq War veteran.
Another of Obumble's great plans falling into ruin
Defense Secretary Ash Carter said in early March that he had "great concern" about Iran's military presence in Iraq because it could inflame sectarian tensions that are driving support for Islamic State militants.

The fight against the IS stronghold in Tikrit began with considerable bluster.
As usual with 3rd world tinpot generals and leaders
"When Tikrit operations kicked off … we heard quite a bit from the Iraqis and some even from the Iranians, some fairly high-confidence statements about how rapidly the operation in Tikrit would go," Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, said Wednesday.

"Obviously they were incorrect," Warren said.
Running up for the most British style understatement of the year
"I think it's important that the Iraqis understand that what would be most helpful to them is a reliable partner in this fight," Warren said. "Reliable, professional, advanced military capabilities are something that reside very clearly and very squarely with the [American-led] coalition."
No... with just the Americans. You people lack the professional and reliable part
Austin said the campaign in Tikrit has failed so far because the Iraqis were not in control of the forces on the ground and those forces were not trained and equipped well enough to take on intense urban combat operations that present unique challenges.
And they fight like Arabs (insult I know since they want to be called Persians)
Austin acknowledged that U.S. and Iranian goals in Iraq are similar ‐ to defeat the Islamic State militants.

But he also recalled that just a few years ago, U.S. forces were battling those same Iranian-backed Shiite militias.

"I hope we never coordinate or cooperate with Shia militias," Austin bluntly said.
I'm all for their complete extermination
Posted by:DarthVader

#11  Defeat? Not exactly. More like a setback.

Iran is learning almost the same lesson with Iraqi Shiite militias that the US learned (repeatedly) with Iraqi Army forces: Iraqi military leadership sucks. And if you're not prepared to get down into the weeds, spend time and money and often do some ass kicking, you're going to end up with yet another traditional Arab warrior-mob.

IMNSHO, this reads like another AyPee let's-defend-the-administration-at-home piece.

I can see the WH assuring the mullahs that it was for "public consumption."
Posted by: Pappy   2015-03-28 18:23  

#10  Hardly a defeat.

They have got the Americans to do the hard part and will reap the rewards, without the costs.
Posted by: phil_b   2015-03-28 17:40  

#9  ...or Verdun?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-03-28 17:10  

#8  As I was saying elsewhere, would it be wrong to hope for another Battle of the Somme (Tigris version)?
Posted by: Glenmore   2015-03-28 15:58  

#7  Or as Joe said elsewhere today "As Globalist Amerika PCorrectly self-retreats around the World..."
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418    2015-03-28 14:46  

#6  "Another of Obumble's great plans falling into ruin" I think his "great plan" is doing just fine. This is a sideshow. Do not read this as any kind of endorsement of the Obamagenda. Do not talk about the Obamagenda.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418    2015-03-28 14:44  

#5  elite = politically loyal to whatever regime
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-03-28 12:37  

#4  Are these the "elite" Iranian Revolutionary Guards?
That seems to mean something else in the Middle East.
Posted by: tu3031   2015-03-28 11:55  

#3  One side likes to murder people in horrible ways and post the pertinent videos to YouTube. The other doesn't post to YouTube but wants to nuke me. You know, Matt, it's a really hard question.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-03-28 11:45  

#2  Natural Selection n.noun,
1.The process in nature by which, according to Darwin's theory of evolution, organisms that are better adapted to their environment tend to survive longer and transmit more of their genetic characteristics to succeeding generations than do those that are less well adapted.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-03-28 11:44  

#1  Wait a minute. Am I pleased or frightened?
Posted by: Matt   2015-03-28 11:36  

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