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Iraq
Petraeus: U.S. '€˜probably losing' right now in fight against Islamic State
2015-06-05
[Wash Times] Former CIA Director and retired Gen. David Petraeus said Wednesday that the U.S.-led coalition's fight against the Islamic State group is "probably losing" at this time.
In all fairness, the man actually does know a great deal about winning....and losing.
The architect of the successful "surge" strategy in Iraq in 2007 told Charlie Rose "These are fights where if you're not winning, you're probably losing, because time is not on your side," when asked if the U.S. was winning, CBS reported.
If you are leaving the mess for the next administration, or if you've secretly partnered a partition with Iran, 'time is indeed on your side.' Perhaps we'll not go there during this interview.
Gen. Petraeus said that recent seizures of Ramadi in Iraq and the ancient city of Palmyra in Syria were significant operational and strategic setbacks.
Yes, losing key cities and panicked retrogrades are indicators of a non-win.
"It's worrisome. As we say, 'The enemy gets a vote,'" he said, CBS reported. "But this is a moment at which I think you step back and say 'What do you do in the military arena? What also do we need to do in the political arena?'"

Asked by Mr. Rose if the U.S. should rely on Iran-backed Shiite militias to secure battlefield victories for Iraq forces, Gen. Petraeus replied that such an option should only be used as a last resort.

"What we need to do is focus not just on the military. You can't kill or capture your way out of an industrial strength insurgency like this, Charlie -- really, an industrial strength conventional force, because that's what [the Islamic State] has actually come to be. You need to have the political component, and without that, without that, you're not going to solve the problem," he said.

Iraq security forces and Iran-backed militias are currently preparing to retake the city of Ramadi, which fell under Islamic State control last month.
Notice he carefully avoided discussing the obvious limits of aerial bombing and the notional efforts now underway.
Posted by:Besoeker

#3  I wonder if this is the reason for "Walking Dead" Pelosi slamming the General.
Posted by: Bill Clinton   2015-06-05 19:57  

#2  One lesson I thought we learned from Iraq was the longer the tribesmen hung around with the Al Queda fighters the easier it was to get them to side against the Al Queda fighters.

Another lesson I learned was lacking an external target to hate (America or Israel) the Sunni and Shia will hate and kill each other. Let them.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2015-06-05 10:33  

#1  Notice that no one asks the seminal question; What do you mean by winning?

This is a problem that's been with us since at least the beginning of the "War on Terrorism".

What will "winning" look like? Who would be dead and who would be in charge and where? I know my definition but I'm not sure any of the players in this drama even have one.
Posted by: AlanC   2015-06-05 09:31  

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