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| 2015-06-16 |
| [AEI] American strategy against ISIS does not need fine-tuning. It needs a fundamental change, starting with an acceptance of the fact that we must own this fight. The war before us is not a war of choice: ISIS is already at war with us. We can wait until ISIS manages a truly horrible attack in the US, as we have before, and then leap spasmodically to avenge ourselves, but that is surely the path of folly as well as amorality -- amorality because Muslim lives matter, too. We can save hundreds of thousands, if not millions. Must we not try? There is no easy answer to the question: "What should we do?" But we must find the hard answer soon and gird ourselves for the pain and effort it will require. If not us, who? If not here, where? If not now, when? An Isaiah 6:8 moment ? |
| Posted by:Blossom Unains5562 |
| #8 Spasmodical Vengeance would be a great band name. If not us, who? If not here, where? If not now, when? Answer hazy. Ask again later. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2015-06-16 18:04 |
| #7 There was no "spasmodical vengeance!" I guess months of deliberation, presentation, denigration, and waiting for UN approval is considered "spasmodic." |
| Posted by: Pappy 2015-06-16 15:11 |
| #6 It wasn't or isn't just the ROE, it's also the hobbling of the tactics and techniques of aggressive commanders on the ground. Having to EXPLAIN to a JAG in Kandahar why your upcoming operation is essential to the security of your sector, then being told by the "leadership"... back off, stick to tribal council shuras and road patrolling. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2015-06-16 15:06 |
| #5 "We can wait until ISIS manages a truly horrible attack in the US, as we have before, and then leap spasmodically to avenge ourselves," There was no "spasmodical vengeance!" There was a military response to 9/11. But the Bush administration made a huge effort to avoid giving the impression that there was a retaliatory or punitive component to that response. This is why "Operation Infinite Justice" was neutered and turned into "Operation Enduring Freedom." The failed military response to 9/11 was an attempt at therapeutic intervention that increased muslim hatred for Western civilization and simultaneously reduced muslim fear of the West. "If not us, who? If not here, where? If not now, when?" Any military engagement will suffer from insane, self-destructive ROE and will end in a humiliating defeat for the West. When the muslims look up and shout "Save us!" we should look down and whisper "No!" |
| Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 2015-06-16 14:59 |
| #4 Muslims wouldn't do spit to save our lives if we were in trouble. That said, t won't get easier to deal with this down the road. |
| Posted by: Remoteman 2015-06-16 13:15 |
| #3 “Let Allah sort it out.” |
| Posted by: jvalentour 2015-06-16 08:04 |
| #2 With that headline I expected to see a picture of Obozo the clown. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2015-06-16 07:43 |
| #1 ISIS is already at war with us Bull. Islam is at war with you. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2015-06-16 05:53 |