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Home Front: Politix
Joint Chiefs Staff On Obama: "The Most Dangerous Kind Of Arrogance"
2015-07-17
[DCWhispers] Since becoming President of the United States and this nation's Commander in Chief, Barack Obama has had a consistently strained relationship between himself and the U.S. military. It appears that relationship has reached an all new low following what some are indicating to be among the most lopsided and disastrous negotiations in all of American history.

General Dempsey is said to have made repeated overtures to the White House in the final weeks of the now infamous Iran nuclear negotiations. The primary sticking point was the administration's initial desire to immediately lift restrictions on conventional weapons sales to the Iranian government, an action lobbied for heavily by both Russia and China who hope to make billions off of future military deals with Iran.

Dempsey was repeatedly pushed off to State Department officials who assured the Joint Chiefs Chairman his concerns would be "shared with others" within the State Department and that he would be better served limiting the sharing of his views with Secretary of Defense, Ashton Carter. This process is rumored to have first annoyed Dempsey and then eventually infuriated him to the point he was openly criticizing a sitting president to military staff, something said to be well beyond his normal pattern of behavior.

"General Dempsey has always been a company guy. That's why the White House put him there. They wanted someone who kept quiet and followed orders. That relationship began to fall apart during the Iran nuclear negotiations and then blew up in the final days when he went to Congress and on record issued a public ultimatum. There was to be no immediate allowance for weapons sales to Iran by other nations. Instead, the Obama White House and Iranian representatives agreed to continue freezing such sales for an additional five to eight years. The White House blinked."

If he was feeling any satisfaction over getting at least some of his concerns finally addressed, General Dempsey was apparently not sharing that satisfaction with those around him. Instead, staff close to the general had this to say regarding the Obama White House:

"Rank amateurs and the most dangerous kind of arrogance. China dominated these negotiations from the beginning to the end and the White House seemed more than happy to let it happen."


Posted by:Blossom Unains5562

#13  rj,

Spot on on resignations. If Dempsey could not see who 0 was in 2011 he was blinded by ambition or the pension. In either case, he comes out worse.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2015-07-17 21:14  

#12  Australia should have enlarged their military long ago. They've got everything required except the will to do so. Having said that I think you overestimate the quality of Indonesian troops/equipment. They could cut Australian trade but an attempted invasion would be a cluster for them.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2015-07-17 20:54  

#11  And I am very nervous.

With good reason. Grow a beard, buy a prayer rug.
Posted by: Spinesing Gray3122   2015-07-17 15:15  

#10  Joint Chiefs should probably keep quiet since they have had plenty of opportunities to resign and make a point and have refused to. I'm thinking primarily about Champs pullout of forces from Iraq but there have been other debacles.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2015-07-17 15:00  

#9  
2009 – Fort Hood, 13 killed, 29 wounded–many permanently disabled
2009 – Arkansas recruiting station, one killed, a second wounded
2010 – Pentagon shooting by a 9/11 truther, two wounded
2013 – Washington Navy Yard shooting, 13 killed, three injured
2014 – Norfolk Naval Base, one killed
2014 – Fort Hood AGAIN–three killed, 14 injured
2015 – Chattanooga, 4 Marines at the Navy Operational Support Center and Marine Corps Reserve Center killed, two others wounded at a local recruiting station

He and his cabal don't have your back. You're expendable for his narrative.
Posted by: Procopius2k    2015-07-17 11:45  

#8  Some pundit stated that the only way it would be easier for Iran to get the nuke would be if we supplied them one from our arsenal.

King Hussein and his surrender monkeys have made the U.S. far less safe than it was in 2008. Got the Nobel; now going for the Neville Chamberlain award (WWIII).
Posted by: JohnQC   2015-07-17 08:00  

#7  We rely on the US security guarantee to stop the Indons from invading us.

Should've read up on Tiran Straights crisis, anon1.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-07-17 03:59  

#6  The Convicts have become accustomed to betrayal. They'll learn to cope with it. They're a tough lot.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-07-17 02:41  

#5  And we Promised this Protection to you, anon1
It is not only about his horrid domestic policy, but a world in flames as he walks away, or does not.

Some kind of evil is he.
Posted by: newc   2015-07-17 02:30  

#4  ......#3 I cannot believe that the POTUS has willingly allowed Iran to have the bomb.

After watching him in action for over six long, painful years, I can fok'n bloody well believe it.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-07-17 02:28  

#3  I cannot believe that the POTUS has willingly allowed Iran to have the bomb.

What planet are we living on? Does anybody remember Christopher Hitchens saying Hezbollah (Iran) had changed their icon for use at rallies to be a mushroom cloud?

Obama is the worst US president in history. Under his watch we have:

* Nuclear armed Iran
* Rise of IS, unchecked
* Rise of domestic Islamofascism, unchecked and denied
* Race riots. Ironic as he is the first black president.

Holy crap.

I am living in a nation of 20 million people that depends on the US for existence. less than 100km to the north lies a 250-million Islamic nation with a rising tide of Islamofascism, where Hizb ut-Tahrir rallied last month with 300,000 members - like the Nuremburg rallies. A nation that has made compulsory halal certification on all food, pharma and cosmetics meaning ordinary citizens must subsidise the building of mosques and the further spread of Islamofascism.

Indonesia. Better troops and weapons than Australia.

We rely on the US security guarantee to stop the Indons from invading us.

And I am very nervous.
Posted by: anon1   2015-07-17 01:19  

#2  A little late, but at least Dempsey found his balls.
Posted by: Raj   2015-07-17 01:00  

#1  Since Ovomit despises the military, this is no surprise.

Amateurs, arrogance and a distaste for how things are done in the real world lead to a Caligula type of leader.
Posted by: DarthVader   2015-07-17 00:34  

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