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Home Front: Culture Wars
Planned Parenthood uses ultrasonic weapons (USW) to blast protestors
2015-08-24
[PJ Media] I went to the Planned Parenthood protest in Aurora, IL, on August 22, 2015, and while the huge crowd was heartening, something happened that I still can't believe. Recently I wrote about the lame "Funny or Die" video that made fun of our outrage over Planned Parenthood tearing babies limb from limb and selling the parts to the highest bidder. But those are comedians, so we expect them to be crass and outrageous. What we don't expect is for Planned Parenthood, whose representatives have been caught gorging themselves on salad and wine while they talk about crushing the bodies of the unborn for profit, to join in on the merrymaking. One would think they would be sobered by the scandal. One would think they would be careful not to seem callous or ghoulish in the face of accusations of crimes against humanity that have been likened to slavery, cannibalism, and the Holocaust.

One would be wrong.

While standing within the sound of priests and monks praying the rosary in calming rhythm, another sound came out of the abortion mill in front of us, this one hellish. Planned Parenthood piped discordant, eerie horror music out of speakers hidden somewhere on the building (leading me to surmise they had them installed when the place was built for just an occasion like this!).

This is their idea of a sick joke.

We know they are delivering live, whole babies (who are kicking!) and cutting their faces off to extract brains -- and they know WE know it. So what do they do? They broadcast their depravity in surround sound. Horror-movie madness is what this is. When will thinking people stand up and see the horror show Planned Parenthood really is? They know they're killing babies. You know they're killing babies. The difference is they think it's funny.
Posted by:Besoeker

#11  i have read and thought about what you have all said.

A first trimester fetus is not a human being, and should not be considered one either.

It is not a human being in the sense that an adult in a coma who cannot make decisions for themselves is a human being, or in the sense that a mentally retarded but living human being is a human being.

A first trimester fetus is a *potential* human being, not an actual human being.

Spontaneous abortions, usually called miscarriages, are common in the first trimester. This is why it is traditional for people to say nothing about being pregnant until after the first trimester - to wait and see if it is actually going to stick first.

We do not call these spontaneous miscarriages tragedies or still births.The fetus that is expelled is not considered a baby and should not be.

It is not capable of independent life. It does not have a functioning brain.

The vestigial tail does not begin regressing until 8 weeks.

At 12 weeks it is only 6cm long. It is a fetus. If you leave it in the womb and it doesnt get expelled then it will become a baby

If you expel it naturally or through taking RU486 then it wont become a baby.

The people who are attacking planned parenthood are the same people who oppose first trimester abortions.

They do so not because of science or because of ethics.

They do so because they are deeply religious and believe that their deity told them to.

i do not think that this is a good enough reason to deny women access to first trimester abortions, especially in cases of rape such as that 12 year old girl forced to have a baby. That is unethical.

We will just have to agree to disagree and we do so on religious grounds.

I prefer science and observational ethics that improve human rights instead of divinely mandated ethics that do not improve them.

People will always disagree on some issues yet agree on others, usually on faith-based areas most of all which was why Thomas Jefferson was a genius to draft the first amendment guaranteeing a wall of separation between religion and state.



Posted by: anon1   2015-08-24 23:16  

#10  Anon1 - basic science proves you wrong.

Do you agree that we as a society protect those who cannot give consent - for instance, if a girl is drunk enough then she loses the ability to consent? Or if someone is underage, they do not have the capacity to give consent for srugery, or for legal documents - or to have sex (statutory rape laws, laws agains paedophile acts)?

Good, glad we agree, we believe there must be laws to deter those who would take advantage of the defenseless.

What about the innocent? Do we execute someone for a crime when they were mentally incoimpetent - incapable of forming "mens rea" - that is intent to commit a criminal act? Well of cours e- we make laws for that, we allow those defenses against criminal charges, and the concept of legal innocence requires that we protect the innocent, -- and indeed we presume people to be innocent by default in our legal system.

Now in war, or police actions, or even civilian police, do we go to extra lengths to avoid hurting or killing people by accident, jsut because they are in our way - we look for alternatives even when they inconvenience us or add to risk for our soldier's and police officer's lives. Heck, even our property laws prevent us from doing things the easy way just for the convenience of someone else: look at eminent domain, and how it protects individuals against such things.

So, from all that, you can jsutly draw the conclusion that we, as a society, protect the innocent and defenseless amongst us - and we value human life and go out of our way to accommodate it or protect it, even if it puts us at greater risk or inconvenience to do so.

Here the science pat:

it the conceived "fetus" in the wou,b alive? Is it life? Yes. It meets the fundamental biological definition of life.

Is it human? Of course - Science says via biology it can be nothing other than human.

Is it innocent? Certainly, speaking legally, it is - it is too young to have mens rea. Is it defenseless? Again, its the very definition of defenseless - it cannot consent nor can it resist.

Pro Choice? What exactly are you allowing as one of the choices? Elective abortion.

So what does elective abortion do?

It is the deliberate destruction of a defenseless, innocent human life,for the convenience or profit of another.

And we as a society have every right to pass laws to outlaw it as we would any other form of deliberate destruction of innocent defenseless human life. You have no more "right" to choose to take such an abhorrent moral action than does any murderer.

And there you have it. Basic logic and fundamental biology.


Two words for you and your ilk: you lose.
Posted by: OldSpook   2015-08-24 21:47  

#9  "a fetus less than three months old is just that - a fetus"

Anon1, if you'd watched the videos you would know they are not talking about three month old fetus. This is about late term abortion and its usefulness as a baby-parts for profit business.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2015-08-24 14:53  

#8  Is just me, or is this argument goes way beyond bounds?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-08-24 13:20  

#7  Anon1, I didn't know you worshiped human sacrifice. I'm glad you have admitted it so that I can in the future, completely ignore anything you say. It's nice when evil outs itself so that it's in the open.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2015-08-24 12:38  

#6  Bobby Jindal played a loop of the PP videos for the pro-PP protestor to watch while they gathered around the governor's mansion in Baton Rouge. Looks like they didn't stay long to protest.
Posted by: ConstantCough   2015-08-24 12:13  

#5  this one hellish

Appropriate.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-08-24 09:47  

#4  referring to #1
Posted by: Frank G   2015-08-24 09:32  

#3  bullshit
Posted by: Frank G   2015-08-24 09:31  

#2  anon1 - Love how the word "alleged" is used in spite of what the videos contained (You did watch them, right?). A sperm is 1/2 the equation, as are the eggs lost to menses. Once combined, however, life, of whatever level you wish to define it, has begun and, in most cases, without the use of scalpels, vacuums, etc. could go on to develop into someone you could look up to.

"Fetuses" are not necessary for stem-cell research. You should really check out the "libary" before spouting.

Just because your mom cracks the door to the basement you live in does not mean you are enlightened.
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy   2015-08-24 09:29  

#1  really and truly, the videos put out about the alleged crimes of PP were exaggerated and misleading. so is this. they are not delivering live whole babies and cutting their faces off.

that is just not true. a fetus less than three months old is just that - a fetus. its not a baby or a human being. if you want to be extreme about it, every sperm is a human being in waiting, and every day thousands of sperm die.

and stem cell research is totally acceptable. Christopher Reeves was a big campaigner for it.

so if they are blasting irrational protesters with loud sounds, good. carry on, i say.
Posted by: anon1   2015-08-24 08:49  

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