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Poll of U.S. Muslims Reveals Ominous Levels Of Support For Islamic Supremacists' Doctrine of Shariah, Jihad
2015-09-15
[CenterForSecurityPolicy] According to the just-released survey of Muslims, a majority (51%) agreed that "Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to shariah." When that question was put to the broader U.S. population, the overwhelming majority held that shariah should not displace the U.S. Constitution (86% to 2%).

More than half (51%) of U.S. Muslims polled also believe either that they should have the choice of American or shariah courts, or that they should have their own tribunals to apply shariah. Only 39% of those polled said that Muslims in the U.S. should be subject to American courts.

These notions were powerfully rejected by the broader population according to the Center's earlier national survey. It found by a margin of 92%-2% that Muslims should be subject to the same courts as other citizens, rather than have their own courts and tribunals here in the U.S.

Even more troubling, is the fact that nearly a quarter of the Muslims polled believed that, "It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed."
Posted by:Blossom Unains5562

#17  A godless young man of Temecula
Addressed me aboard a funicular:
"Old man, don't be frightened;
We're highly Enlightened --
Inspect those poor insects nonsecular!"
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220   2015-09-15 23:37  

#16  tl:dnr

Try keeping it to a paragraph.
Posted by: Pappy   2015-09-15 20:30  

#15  Alan C - the most important point though is that to separate theocratic fascism from secular muslims

then name the enemy as Islamofascism and sharia

and hold up the secular muslims as visible allies

is the only way to win

You cannot fight all islam. What is required is for us to take a position in what is a civil war within the religion

but to take it publicly. Even though its not our religion.

The other strategy of pretending religion has nothing to do with it has failed. Obviously failed.

although you might want to expel every muslim within your borders and this would automatically solve the problem, because by definition every Islamofascist is a muslim, this is not possible.

If you want to win this very serious conflict we are trapped in then you have to fight hard but also use winning strategies - do what is possible.

if we declare war on all islam that will fail. If we pretend Islam has nothing to do with it (the current PR strategy) we will fail.

this is an ideological civil war within islam between theocrat and secular that has been exported by the theocrats to everywhere and all of us.

We therefore have no choice but to fight. But we cannot keep doing what we are doing because we will lose.

Therefore only the difficult and correct option is left. We must communicate to the largely ignorant public what the difference is between theocrat and secular

and stand up to defend Western secularism.

you cannot expect the support of other religious leaders in this because their own power bases which depend on the same thing - religiosity. They were de-fanged centuries ago but they are always looking to come back - and we have no right to forget what they were like when they were strong. They will be uncomfortable with the defence of secularism which is required. We have no choice but to defend the fragile rule of secular law which we have inherited from the Enlightenment or modernity will cease to exist.
Posted by: anon1   2015-09-15 19:03  

#14  Alan c - no, there are plenty of muslims who reject sharia

and should be encouraged in their efforts

here is dr taj hargey who rejects it outright

and because there is no centralised authority in Islam the left wing media cannot say he is not a *real* muslim. they are all real muslims

it is just who do you give a platform to comment - sunni theocratic fascists?

or secular muslims like Dr Taj Hargey

Then there is Lejla Kuric, a brave muslim woman who fought off gender segregation in UK Universities

If you ask her she will say no, she doesnt believe in magical flying carpets or winged horses and totally rejects sharia

but yes she does consider herself muslim because she was forced to flee the former yugoslavia and live in a refugee camp for years because she was considered to be a muslim


Posted by: anon1   2015-09-15 18:55  

#13  A reading of the Koran Poll of U.S. Muslims Reveals Ominous Levels Of Support For Islamic Supremacists' Doctrine of Shariah, Jihad

FIFY
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-09-15 14:53  

#12  The religion of peace is not peaceful. Water is wet. There are no moderates? Why are we allowing so many of them into the country?
Posted by: JohnQC   2015-09-15 14:49  

#11  muslims are welcome, sharia is not

This seems to be an oxymoron. Isn't sharia one of the prime tenets of Islam? That would make all muslims supporters of the imposition of SHARIA.

Now, I don't deny that many muslims are not real observant while living in a place not under the control of holy-mens, but it doesn't mean that there isn't a critical mass of muslims that would try and force the issue.

There should be no laws except those from civil society that abide by the constitution.
Posted by: AlanC   2015-09-15 14:36  

#10  I'll put up a picture of Mohammad (Piss be upon him) getting raped by a pig. Anyone complains, I'll remind them of piss Jesus and the Virgin Mary made of cow pies and freedom of speech.

They still make a stink I'll shoot 'em.
Posted by: DarthVader   2015-09-15 12:17  

#9  this shows the complete failure of the strategy by our rulers to refuse to name Islamofascist ideology as the enemy

and never to discuss what they actually mean by the non-denominational term of Terrorism

complete failure

they need to DECLARE an ideological enemy

Name the Caliphate as the enemy. Name it. Declare sharia the ideology

run it with the slogan muslims are welcome, sharia is not

then stamp out sharia from within our countries

stamp it out while it is a small relatively and easy to do
Posted by: anon1   2015-09-15 11:40  

#8  muslims are welcome, sharia is not

sharia is treason. the desire to replace the secular laws drafted by the elected representatives of the people, the democratic parliament, - replace this with theocratic laws from the bronze age dispensed by holymen

declare the Caliphate the enemy and Sharia its ideology

prosecute all who implement sharia for treason. Lock them up, deport them, prosecute to the full extent of the law
Posted by: anon1   2015-09-15 11:33  

#7  Excellent idea. I support their desire to be governed by Sharia. Let us send them on their way to a Sharia governed country post haste.
Posted by: Spinesing Gray3122   2015-09-15 09:05  

#6  51% aligns with the same results of the survey of Supreme Court justices on the question of the constitution.
Posted by: Airandee   2015-09-15 09:04  

#5  Allah is not a god, Allah is a demon who desires to be god. Never, ever forget that.
Posted by: Ebbomosh Hupemp2664    2015-09-15 07:07  

#4  Even more troubling, is the fact that nearly a quarter of the Muslims polled believed that, "It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed."

Thus they're not only interested in subjugating their own regulating their own affairs.

25% openly support an egregious violation of fundamental civil rights of the general populace.

Permitting any Muslim immigration is stupid. Permitting an uncontrolled Muslim invasion is suicidal.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2015-09-15 06:23  

#3  And this is a surprise to whom?

To everybody but informed adults---say 90% of the population?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-09-15 06:01  

#2  ARISE, ISLAMERIKA/COLUMBIA-STAN, ARISE!

As I've said before, EVERY POST SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, SUB-CULTURAL OR ALTERNATIST AGENDA THAT BECOMES LEGAL IN AMERIKA IS ANOTHER POINT IN FAVOR OF LEGAL SHARIA BECOMING EMPOWERED AND EMPLACED IN AMERIKA.

Iff Legal Sharia, why NOT Legal Hindu Caste System + Other?

Do the Chinese know? AFAIK besides desiring to take over at least 1/2 of the Pacific from the US by 2020 NLT 2025 - GUAM-WESTPAC + hopefully also HAWAII - China still wants 1/2 of CONUS-NORAM eventually for all-purpose "living space".

The alternative is that iff China can't acquire or dominate GUAM-WESTPAC andor HAWAII, NEITHER WILL THE "WEAK/DECLINING" EX-SOLE-SUPERPOWER-SOON-TO-BE-ONE-OF-MANY-OWG-CO-SUPERPOWERS USA.

FUTURE-ISLAMERIKA-VS-FUTURE-SINO-AMERIKA.

Again, OWG-NWO OR NO OWG-NWO, US-LED ANTI-US GLOBALISM OR NON-US-LED ANTI-US GLOBALISM, ETC. THE "GREAT GAME" NEVER ENDS.

* FYI TOPIX, LUCIANNE > POLL: ONE-THIRD OF AMERICANS BELIEVE OBAMA IS A MUSLIM.

* SIASAT DAILY > [India = Teleguana State] 12% RESERVATION FOR MUSLIMS - ENTIRE MUSLIM SOCIETY ACTIVE, i.e. comiong out in support of GOVT/LEGALLY MANDATED QUOTA SYSTEM FOR INDIA'S MUSLIMS-N-ONLY MUSLIMS.

Coming to Amerika soon enuff.

VERSUS

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [Reuters] US TO CHINA: TAKE BACK YOUR UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS.

And then there's the LOWER AMERIKAS ...

* TELESUR TV > CLIMATE CHANGE, DROUGHT INCREASING [LatAmer +] CENTRAL AMERICAN MIGRATION, REPORT SUGGESTS. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY LEFT [fled?] CENTRAL AMERICA TO THE US, FLEEING VIOLENCE + POVERTY.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2015-09-15 01:19  

#1  And this is a surprise to whom?
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper   2015-09-15 00:09  

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