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| 2015-11-27 |
| Posted by:newc |
| #15 Bosporus only important to re supply Latakia in a smolder war. In the big shit the Black Sea Fleet is DOA and not much of a factor. The Turkd S suck dead bunnies, but I would expect them to hold most of Anatolia proper and perhaps more along the Syrian and Bulgar border zones. The Russ have never let their lines of communication run thru the Bosforus. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2015-11-27 20:28 |
| #14 "Pulse ' 1' para Inglés... Basın '2' İspanyolca için . Basın '3' Fransızca için . Basın '4' Vietnamca için ... |
| Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2015-11-27 17:32 |
| #13 I believe the Treaty of Whatever gives Turkey the right to close the straits in time of war or whenever they feel like it. (I'm paraphrasing) If the Turks do close the Bosporus, I'd call that a bold move for a one-eyed Ottoman. It would stay closed right up until the Russians need to move something thru it. Remember that business in the Crim? That was over the mere intimation the Russians might lose access. Does NATO Article 5 apply if Turkey starts it and Russia retaliates? "You have reached the NATO Article 5 Hotline. Expected wait times are 1 hour and 45 minutes. Your call is important to us. Please stay on the line." |
| Posted by: SteveS 2015-11-27 15:46 |
| #12 OP, I thought there was a treaty that guarantees Russia free transit of the Bosporous. It includes warships. If Turkey closes it, it would probably be a causus belli. Does NATO Article 5 apply if Turkey starts it and Russia retaliates? |
| Posted by: Rambler in Virginia 2015-11-27 15:33 |
| #11 I would expect the Bosporus to be closed to Russian shipping in the next few days. While it might hurt Russian commercial shipping, I doubt it will do much for Russian military forces, which can come from Kaliningrad, St. Petersburg, and the Kona Peninsula ports. If Turkey does manage to stop Russian imports, we might see more shipping through other European nations, bypassing Turkey and the Black Sea completely. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2015-11-27 14:34 |
| #10 Russia has decided to no longer import a series of goods from Turkey and import them from Israel. Are these the same goods EUros want to label? |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2015-11-27 14:00 |
| #9 Thank you, Zhang Fei. So true, Shipman dear. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2015-11-27 12:39 |
| #8 With gas and the best desal technology in the world, Israel can produce as much summer veg as Russia wants to buy. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2015-11-27 11:45 |
| #7 Russia has decided to no longer import a series of goods from Turkey and import them from Israel. Go Russia!!! |
| Posted by: JFM 2015-11-27 11:09 |
| #6 In the past, PKK has received support from the Soviet Union, Syria, Iran, Iraq and Greece. http://archive.adl.org/terrorism/symbols/pkk_1.html |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2015-11-27 08:52 |
| #5 And deh Joooooooooos (discreetly) |
| Posted by: Shipman 2015-11-27 07:04 |
| #4 The traditional allies of the Kurds has been the Russians The things I don't know! Tsarist Russia or the Soviet Union, BernardZ? |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2015-11-27 04:46 |
| #3 The traditional allies of the Kurds has been the Russians |
| Posted by: BernardZ 2015-11-27 04:33 |
| #2 good. Go Kurds! |
| Posted by: anon1 2015-11-27 02:32 |
| #1 Update#3: I agree with this Business Insider analysis .... Russia is already exacting its revenge on Turkey for downing a Russian warplane (Natasha Bertrand, Business Insider). The one thing that I would add is Russian support for Kurdish groups .... do not be surprised in the next few weeks/months we hear reports of Kurdish forces having money, new and better weapons, good communications equipment, and excellent intelligence. Something to monitor in the days ahead. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2015-11-27 01:31 |