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-Land of the Free
The Hear-Nothing Gun Crowd
2016-01-07
[NYTimes] Sometimes in American politics it seems as if we are all talking past each other, that whatever one side says about an issue like, say, taxes zooms right past the other side. The current fight over gun control is not one of those moments. It is a howling storm of misrepresentation, sadly almost entirely from one side. This week’s developments fit the pattern.
A bit of projection on the editorial writer's part. I would say "misrepresentations" is a liberal way of saying "lies"...
On Tuesday in the East Room of the White House, President Obama formally announced that he would be taking a series of executive actions — all of them within his powers as president. It was an important step, since he sometimes seems alone in Washington in his willingness to take on the issue of guns. But none of his actions are aimed at taking weapons away from law-abiding citizens, and none will have that effect. In fact, there has been no bill in real contention in Congress for many years that would reduce the number of guns currently in circulation, or disarm any law-abiding Americans.
In fact, none of the Executive Orders he has issued impact firearms possession except the one that forces private gun sellers into the Federal Firearms Licensing system.
What the NYT is complaining about, between the lines, is that Champ really is ineffectual. It's the first time in a long time the NYT and I have agreed about anything...
And yet, as happens every time, the response from the anti-regulation crowd (even before the White House said a word in public about Mr. Obama’s plans) was to deliberately misstate what Mr. Obama was intending. The president said he wanted to increase the number of government agents to process background checks and make the existing system more effective. He also plans to modestly expand the number of dealers who need federal licenses under current law and said he would ask Congress for more money to combat mental illness.
He wants to expand government control over guns. Does that about sum it up?
The Republican machine’s reaction took none of that into account.

“From Day 1,” said House Speaker Paul Ryan, “the president has never respected the right to safe and legal gun ownership that our nation has valued since its founding.” Mr. Ryan said that “rather than focus on criminals and terrorists, he goes after the most law-abiding of citizens. His words and actions amount to a form of intimidation that undermines liberty.”

Unlike Mr. Ryan, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, arch-right candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, did not even wait for the president to talk before he started spitting out his usual talking points on Monday. “This is a president who for seven years has abused his constitutional authority,” he said, adding: “We don’t beat the bad guys by taking away our guns. We beat the bad guys by using our guns.”

There may be an interesting argument over whether having more civilians walking around with guns and empowered to use them enhances public safety. Our position on this page has been that it makes people less safe.
Especially if liberals have guns, as is their right.
But propagandists like Mr. Cruz are not interested in conversation. Mr. Obama is not proposing “taking away our guns.” In truth, Mr. Obama is not currently advocating renewal or expansion of the expired assault weapons ban, which is politically understandable but still unfortunate. It’s impossible to believe that Mr. Cruz does not recognize what Mr. Obama is doing, and not doing.
Obama is setting up his own supporters for the next mass shooting by saying: "Look. I tried to do something but it wasn't enough. Contact your Congressional representative if you want meaningful gun control."
Given the situation, it’s hard to imagine a serious conversation about guns as long as politicians in thrall to the gun lobby choose to misrepresent what supporters of gun safety laws are actually saying. Those supporters, by the way, include the 90 percent of Americans who favor universal background checks for gun buyers.
Even if they could count 99 percent who want universal background checks, the law fails in two fundamental respects: 1) It is unconstitutional, and 2) It doesn't have consent of the governed. Laws on the books that fail either of these two standards are not laws at all. They are Constitutionally null and void, and should be ignored. Additionally, in the instance in which universal background checks get passed, as a gun owner I still get a vote. "Conversations" on "gun control" wind up being lectures by the terminally liberal and end up as personal attacks. No thanks.
The hear-nothing crowd did not budge when college students were slaughtered on campuses like Virginia Tech, when grade school children were massacred in Connecticut, when people were shot to death in a movie theater in Colorado — and in so many other places, including every day on our streets and in our homes.
Why? Because 99.999 percent of gun owners did not commit those crimes and should not be held accountable by having their only means of protection controlled or taken from them.
They were not even moved to have a serious conversation about gun safety after self-proclaimed Islamist terrorists attacked law-abiding American citizens in California using weapons obtained in the free market of death-dealing instruments so highly prized by the National Rifle Association and those who do its bidding.
It would be at this point I have to ask if they are really serious, but alas they really are.
Posted by:badanov

#4  They also call Senator Cruz "arch-right" and describe him "spitting out his usual talking points". When will they call Obama the "arch-left President spitting out his usual talking points?"
Posted by: Sgt. D.T.   2016-01-07 15:19  

#3  The New York Times is calling Cruz a propagandist? There is a saying about a pot and a kettle that comes to mind.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2016-01-07 12:27  

#2  The hear nothing crowd.

Now that's rich.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2016-01-07 10:40  

#1  Hmmm, bad choice in mentioning Virginia Tech because it was a private gun owner who went to his car and retrieved his side arm who confronted the shooter and caused him to flee.

They also didn't mention how Virginia Tech is the poster child for gun free zones.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2016-01-07 00:15  

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