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| Movement pursues the 'real story' of '28 pages' and Saudi 9/11 involvement |
| 2016-04-21 |
| Excerpt from very lengthy Washington Times article: As a Democratic senator from Florida, Bob Graham co-chaired the joint committee that wrote those 28 pages. He is one of the nation’s most outspoken critics of the commission’s Saudi conclusion and is convinced there is a direct link between the hijackers and Saudi officials. His interest focuses on several figures, including Omar al Bayoumi, who assisted hijackers Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid Almihdhar after they arrived in Southern California in January 2000. Al-Hazmi and Almihdhar were sent to California by plot leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to learn English, then how to pilot an airliner for what he called the "Planes Operation." Mr. Graham also concluded that Saudi diplomat Fahad al Thumairy, an official of the Islamic and Cultural Affairs section of the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Los Angeles, also helped the hijackers. The U.S. pulled Mr. Thumairy's visa and banned him from the U.S. Mr. Graham said in a sworn affidavit on Jan. 28, 2015, in a civil case: "Al Bayoumi met al Hazmi and al Mihdhar at a restaurant in Los Angeles in late January 2000, immediately following a meeting between al Bayoumi and al Thumairy at the Saudi consulate. Shortly thereafter, the two hijackers traveled to San Diego, where al Bayoumi held a dinner in their honor, helped them find an apartment, fronted the initial payments of that apartment, and provided them continuing financial assistance going forward. During the period that he supported the hijackers, al Bayoumi’s allowances from a ghost job with a Saudi private firm and contractor to the Saudi government increased eightfold. During that same period, al Bayoumi had an unusual number of telephone conversations with Saudi government officials in both Los Angeles and Washington." |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #15 Why did we remove Saddam? The rumor was that OBL's plans were much more expansive than we were told. Phase 1 - eliminate his Northern Alliance competition via assassination (completed); Phase 2 - increase his stature in the ME by humbling the great satan via the planes operation (completed); phase 3 - assassinate Saddam and install a proxy loyal to a planned OBL caliphate (fail). Remember at that time OBL heavily influenced the affairs of several countries from Africa - Yemen - the Saudis were paying him tribute - and he chose his al Qaeda (base) in the remote region of Afghanistan where he thought himself out of our reach. It is rumored that Saddam ferreted his assassins out and mitigated the initial threat. It was further rumored that we really, really did not want Saddam killed by OBLs folks with an end result that the a new OBL influenced dictator would control one of the world's largest armies. Saddam was in a spot - we offered him a way out, he wouldn't take it. Instead we forced him out and naively tried to install a democracy in Iraq (democracies can not be overthrown by a single bullet like a dictatorship was the theory). Somehow we didn't consider the end result - an envionment where a Shia democracy would push the remnants of Saddam's military leaders to create an AQI bred caliphate...OBLs intent all along... |
| Posted by: Spike Spigum1824 2016-04-21 23:52 |
| #14 Since we don't seem to know when to stop I'd suggest Mecca. Geebus, EU6305, we are deploying Lindsay Lohan to Mecca; even I feel bad about that. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2016-04-21 22:02 |
| #13 OK, but Saddam did not attack the United States and kill innocent civilians. The Soddies did Al Qaeda and other jihadi group cadres were trained by Saddam Hussein's people at the Salman Pak facility, Ebbang Uluque6305. There were classes in hijacking, making biological and chemical weapons, and all the things a good jihadi needs to know to be a successful terrorist. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2016-04-21 20:25 |
| #12 Killing that Genocidal creep Saddam and his rapist children was a net gain for humanity as a whole. OK, but Saddam did not attack the United States and kill innocent civilians. The Soddies did. Since we don't seem to know when to stop I'd suggest Mecca. |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-04-21 18:35 |
| #11 Yep, the clean-up operation in Iraq is still on going. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2016-04-21 17:28 |
| #10 Ditto Amen, but, the problem with killing people for being evil SOBs is that it's so hard to know when to stop. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2016-04-21 17:19 |
| #9 Killing that Genocidal creep Saddam and his rapist children was a net gain for humanity as a whole. Amen and amen. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2016-04-21 17:02 |
| #8 I feel the same way now as then: Killing that Genocidal creep Saddam and his rapist children was a net gain for humanity as a whole. |
| Posted by: Secret Master 2016-04-21 16:52 |
| #7 Was Saddam just a convenient whipping boy? There's evidence that indicates otherwise. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2016-04-21 16:48 |
| #6 Saudi Arabia’s grass roots of Muslim clerics, mosquegoers and wealthy oilmen funded al Qaeda’s $30 million annual budget at the time a Saudi-dominated platoon of terrorists carried out the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America. Yet the kingdom and its Islamic rulers had nothing to do with the plot, which killed nearly 3,000 people. Grass roots is bad enough, isn't it? Doesn't that mean the people? Doesn't that mean they hate us? We should have nuked them. We still should. OK, how about we just arclight Mecca? If we were worried about the oil we should have sent our military to occupy their oil fields instead of Iraq's. Saddam did not finance alQaeda, the Soddies did. Was Saddam just a convenient whipping boy? Why do we continue to coddle these creeps unless our leaders are just as bad as theirs? |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-04-21 15:53 |
| #5 I missed that article back then. Article probably wasn't 'well advertised'. Thanks! |
| Posted by: Mullah Richard 2016-04-21 11:59 |
| #4 Try this one Richard. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2016-04-21 09:59 |
| #3 Sorry Richard, have to wait until I'm back home to repair. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2016-04-21 09:54 |
| #2 Bad link, Mr. B. |
| Posted by: Mullah Richard 2016-04-21 09:16 |
| #1 The connection between Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, Saudi intelligence agents, Al Bayoumi, and 9/11. Link to NYT article from August 2003. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2016-04-21 07:27 |