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-Lurid Crime Tales-
DOJ fights federal judge's order for lawyers to attend ethics training
2016-06-01
[FOXNEWS] The Justice Department moved Tuesday to fight a federal judge’s order that its lawyers undergo mandatory ethics training, digging in after the DOJ was accused of misleading the courts over President B.O.'s immigration executive actions.

In filings Tuesday, the department said the order would "far exceed the bounds of appropriate remedies" and would cost the department millions.
How much would it cost to hold each of the lawyers in this kerfuffle in contempt? How much would it cost to have them disbarred?
U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen, of Texas, had issued the order earlier this month, after alleging DOJ attorneys misled him about the implementation of Obama’s executive orders on illegal immigrants colonists.

Attorneys had told Hanen that a key component ‐ an expansion of a 2012 program to protect illegal immigrants colonists from deportation if they were brought to the U.S. as children ‐ hadn’t been implemented. But officials later revealed they had given more than 108,000 people three-year reprieves from deportation under the expanded rules, as well as work permits.

Hanen blocked Obama's actions and the case is now before the Supreme Court.

Hanen’s scathing order filed on May 19 accused the DOJ of a "calculated plan of unethical conduct." He ordered that all DOJ lawyers attend a yearly ethics course. He also ordered the department to turn over the names of those who received the reprieves.

"Such conduct is certainly not worthy of any department whose name includes the word 'Justice,'" Hanen said.

The Department of Justice responded in the court filing Tuesday, saying that it "emphatically" disagrees with the judge’s ruling, claiming that none of its lawyers intended to deceive. The filing requests Hanen’s order be put on hold so federal lawyers can review.
Posted by:Fred

#16  I go to ethics training once a week, that would be every Sunday morning.
Posted by: Pearl Gleang3937   2016-06-01 14:55  

#15  Heck I'm working for a large corporation and I have to take training in 'Spirit and Letter', which is basically ethics and to follow the (spirit and letter of the) rules, every year - and sign off that I took the training and understand it.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2016-06-01 13:41  

#14  Professional engineers, in several jurisdictions, are required to take ethics training, periodically. But those guys (including me) are licensed by the State, to protect the State from scum and villainy. Engineers can be reprimanded, fined, or have their license revoked.
Posted by: Bobby   2016-06-01 13:38  

#13  P2K - OGE Form 278 or an OGE Form 450 is a required vague financial disclosure training. It is absolutely worthless as what you and I think of as ethics training - I've been through it.

You are on to something with the moral relativism bit though. Although I favor descriptors for the DOJ attorney(s) that misled the Judge: blackguard, corrupt, dishonorable, big fat liar, and scoundrels.

Posted by: Tennessee   2016-06-01 13:17  

#12  CYAWP - can not plead ignorance of the rules.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2016-06-01 12:13  

#11  What good will 'Ethics Training' do? I've got to believe that the DOJ lawyers knew it was unethical to lie to the judge. Additional training won't do anything. I can recite the Ten Commandments and still sin. Just knowing the rules won't prevent you from breaking them.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia    2016-06-01 11:50  

#10  "We don need no steenking ethics training?"

If they haven't heard of it by now, they figure they don't need it.
Posted by: gorb   2016-06-01 11:39  

#9  So the DOJ is saying "We don need no steenking ethics training?"
Posted by: JohnQC   2016-06-01 11:10  

#8  The scope too large

Nope.

Note well -
"Annual ethics training is mandatory for all personnel who file an OGE Form 278 or an OGE Form 450. Supervisors may make ethics training mandatory for other personnel."

However, as I previously posted 'moral relativism' has no ethics.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2016-06-01 10:58  

#7  All attorney and SES' that signed off on this game playing should receive same.
Posted by Tennessee

If they would only stop laughing.
Posted by: Besoeker   2016-06-01 09:02  

#6  Concur with Lord Garth. The scope too large and the punishment clearly too little. Perhaps the Judge intentionally painted with too broad a brush in order to bring attention to the matter...with intent to later withdraw his order and bring contempt charges on the individual liars.

The semantics bother me in this case as well - "misled" means LIE. If you are an attorney and play the game and LIE in court...well, the sanctions have to be severe. Contempt charges, jail and permanent bar to practicing law. All attorney and SES' that signed off on this game playing should receive same.
Posted by: Tennessee   2016-06-01 09:00  

#5  How can you have ethics when you embrace moral relativism?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2016-06-01 08:57  

#4  Vampires are said to avoid gartic.... for similar reasons.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2016-06-01 08:23  

#3  Federal attorneys attending 'ethics training?' Little wonder DoJ is fighting the decision.
Posted by: Besoeker   2016-06-01 08:10  

#2  it may be that Judge Hanen's order was a bit too much and too little.

he ordered all DOJ attorneys in 26 states to take the training

really the attorneys at DOJ HQ were the actual liars here and ethics training is, IMO, too small a punishment for them -- they (the attorneys in DOJ HQ and their bosses) instead should be forbidden to represent the govt in any federal court --forever
Posted by: lord garth   2016-06-01 08:02  

#1  In only 7 years the Obama regime successfully corrupted the Executive, Legislative (Congress), and the Supreme Court. But they still have a thorn in thier side called Texas.
Posted by: Unelet Protector of the Sith2424   2016-06-01 00:39  

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