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Home Front: WoT
Guess which Orlando bar was a "gun free zone."
2016-06-13
[Breitbart] Pulse, the Orlando gay nightclub targeted in a jihadist terror attack, was a "gun-free zone" by state law.

Per Florida's concealed carry law, those with a license to carry may not carry their firearms into an establishment that serves alcohol.

The establishment was touted as "Orlando's hottest gay bay" on its website, providing patrons with an "unforgettable night of fun and fantasy." Domestic terrorist Omar Mir Seddique Mateen, a registered Democrat and Muslim from Port St. Lucie, killed 50 victims and wounded 53 more -- all of whom were prohibited from carrying weapons to defend themselves.

The state statute that covers the license to carry a weapon, Title XLVI Chapter 790, clearly states that guns are not permitted in bars
Posted by:Besoeker

#10  I would like to know how much time it took for the SWAT team to get all dressed up, check their batteries, get reacquainted with their bad boy weapons, have a couple of doughnuts and refuel their assault vehicle.

Exactly, cops need to be cops, it's dangerous as hell sometimes, but you signed on the line, no special out. Uncle Charles would have blown thru the crowd and landed at least one slug on this POS, a shotgun slug. You take the Queens money and you take your chances.
Posted by: Shipman   2016-06-13 19:19  

#9  Also could have been terrified there was a pipe-bomb or other explosive waiting for them. Still think 3 hours is ridiculous, but I bet you anything the SWAT team wasn't anywhere near ready when this was called in. Which...is actually kind of bad.
Posted by: Charles   2016-06-13 18:35  

#8  Three hours seems unbelievable, but there must be some planning even on the fly to understand the layout of the property and target. Also, the cops need to watch out for the ambush for cops AND first responders medical.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2016-06-13 16:49  

#7  The shooter had a CCL - he broke the rules!
Posted by: Glenmore   2016-06-13 16:27  

#6  Zf is right, 5 cops in 10 minutes doing their sworn duty would have saved many. But how many chances do you get to go full SWAT school?

It's one guy with a gun, man up assault and kill. Remember the Sergeant of Arms of the House Of Commons? Went to his his desk got his pistol and BANG! BANG! No history
Posted by: Shipman   2016-06-13 15:32  

#5  Regardless of any law against patrons carrying in a bar, why didn't the bouncers have firearms?

Never mind moslem terrorism - homosexual bars must know they're targets for someone.
Posted by: Barbara   2016-06-13 15:10  

#4  Not sure that's entirely fair, Zhang. The cops did need to figure out what was going on, and there was a fair bit of rescue.

I do agree that in these situations it's likely better for the cops to go in as quickly as they can -- but we don't want them to charge into an ambush. Count on the ISIS mooks to figure out how to set that up.
Posted by: Steve White   2016-06-13 14:06  

#3  The cops took 3 hours to get in there. While there's no excusing what the Muslim terrorist did, it appears that making sure every cop got to go home that day took precedence over saving lives.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2016-06-13 13:23  

#2  Oh gee gosh! A gun free zone didn't work!! Oh the humanity!
Posted by: DarthVader   2016-06-13 11:06  

#1  Sure, and no one would carry without a license, or be in a bar.
Posted by: Skidmark   2016-06-13 10:52  

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