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Home Front: Politix
If Trump wins, a coup isn't impossible here in the U.S.
2016-07-21
L.A. Times showing it's red stripe.
[LATIMES] Try to imagine, then, a situation in which Trump commanded our military to do something stupid, illegal or irrational. Something so dangerous that it put the lives of Americans and the security of the country at stake. (Trump’s former rival for the Republican presidential nomination, Marco Rubio, said the United States could not trust "the nuclear codes" to an "erratic individual.") Faced with opposition from his military brass, Trump would perhaps reconsider and back down. But what if he didn’t?

Blimpish swagger might fly within the patriarchal confines of a family business...or a dictatorship. It does not work, however, in a liberal democracy.

In that case, our military men and women, who swear to uphold the Constitution and a civilian chain of command, would be forced to choose between obeying the law and serving the wishes of someone who has explicitly expressed his utter lack of respect for it.

They might well choose the former.

"I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign," retired Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden, who served as head of the CIA and the National Security Agency under President George W. Bush, said in response to Trump’s autocratic ruminations. Asked by TV host Bill Maher
...whose eponymous show brings in 1.76 million viewers for HBO, all of whom fancy themselves intellectuals...
what would happen if Trump told American soldiers to kill the families of terrorists, as he has promised to do, Hayden replied, "If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act."
I can imagine absolutely no situation in which the U.S. military would be involved in a coup. Nor have I seen any instance where Trump as expressed any disrespect for the military. Should President Trump propose something stoopid off the top of his head, the idea would be discussed and dismissed in a staff meeting. The Donald isn't Captain Zero. No one on his staff is going to pronounce him "ready to rule from day one."
It's virtually impossible to stage a coup in this country. Not only would the military not obey such orders, but we have hundreds of TV stations, thousands of radio stations, the internet, Twitter, social media, and cell phones. Notice how quickly Yippie spoke to his supporters in Turkey using FaceTime? That times a thousand here. Plus we have an evenly divided country of 315 million people. Stage a coup and you're guaranteed to cheese off half of them at a minimum.

A coup simply is not possible. Succession, however...
Posted by:Fred

#8  Flag officers get their appointments through political means.
Posted by: badanov   2016-07-21 21:33  

#7  "Try to imagine, then, a situation in which Trump commanded our military to do something stupid, illegal or irrational."

Yeah, I see a member or two of the Joint Chiefs pointing out how stupid, illegal or irrational such a command is and then if pushed stepping down which would publicly leave egg all over the Commander-in-Chiefs face. Unlikely it would even get that far even with the super-political military brass we now have.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2016-07-21 15:11  

#6  Concur on the impossibility of a coup. All states have a National Guard that will not follow the Active Force lead even if they did attempt. I am not sure a coup leader could get the Active Duty folks to set aside their school schedules and carefully crafted career ambitions for any such coup nonsense anyaways...further, it would have to be scheduled around the upcoming 4 day weekends and day on day off Christmas schedule. Now if the AC could contract a coup attempt out, perhaps.
Posted by: Tennessee   2016-07-21 11:50  

#5  James Kirchick.


I'm sure he'll leading from behind.
Posted by: charger   2016-07-21 11:34  

#4  I'm not at all concerned. Any such attempt would be preceded by a dramatic uptick in firearms and ammunition sales.
Posted by: Besoeker   2016-07-21 09:27  

#3  When the left doesn't get its way, we see articles like this one.
Posted by: Raj   2016-07-21 09:25  

#2  Try to imagine, then, a situation in which Trump commanded our military to do something stupid, illegal or irrational.

"Defend the Borders" sorta thing? Or, "No way, I'm approving a budget for sex change operations in the military!"? Or, "Win the f*cking war already! I'm sending my consigliori over."?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2016-07-21 02:22  

#1  It's virtually impossible to stage a coup in this country.

Posted by: Skidmark   2016-07-21 00:51  

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