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| Byron York: Khizr Khan, Donald Trump and the debate over Muslim immigration |
| 2016-08-01 |
| h/t Instapundit There's a sensation building over the Democratic convention speech of Khizr Khan, a Pakistani-born Virginia lawyer whose son Humayun was killed in action while serving as a captain in the U.S. Army in Iraq in 2004. In seven minutes on the national stage, Khan, a naturalized U.S. citizen who came to this country in 1980, excoriated Trump for proposals to build a wall along the Mexican border and to temporarily ban the entry of foreign Muslims into the U.S. "Let me ask you: Have you even read the United States Constitution?" Khan said to Trump. "I will gladly lend you my copy. In this document, look for the words 'liberty' and 'equal protection of law.'" ...It may be that building a wall, deporting illegal immigrants, and temporarily banning the entry of foreign Muslims are all terrible policies. But among the Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans touting Khan's performance there appears to be a belief that if something is a terrible policy, it must also be unconstitutional. That's not necessarily so. Leaving aside some relevant facts, IMO, cognitive elites simply don't understand the use of probability theory in making decisions. |
| Posted by:g(r)omgoru |
| #23 I also shouldn't have to point out that the media were boosting Trump until he got the nomination, and are (as we predicted) suddenly coming down on him like a load of bricks now that he's The Nominee We're Stuck With. It's McCain Part Deux. |
| Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-08-01 22:07 |
| #22 So Dad is a Democratic party shill and Son is a war hero. Shades of Cindy Sheehan! And everything old is new again. But why not? The play worked well against BushHitler. and us NSBs should hang together so we won't hang separately. In order to be President, you have to get elected. One reason Romney lost was he played nice - as expected of a gentleman. So he had no defense to the media memes of dog on the roof, binders full of women, etc. I'm willing to stipulate that Trump has huuuuge flaws. But as Lincoln said about Grant, “I like him; he fights.” One last thing: Remember that *everything* you hear about Trump is filtered thru a media machine determined to stop him, by any means. I shouldn't have to point this out on a website where playing Intelligence Analyst, Junior Grade is a major sport, but there you have it. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2016-08-01 21:24 |
| #21 #19 I do hereby second the above motion. |
| Posted by: Dale 2016-08-01 20:40 |
| #20 You got it Bad. DNC Media collusion plant. |
| Posted by: Dale 2016-08-01 20:36 |
| #19 I move that we accept g(r)om's report regarding NSB's, and that the Adjutant so annotate the minutes and official record. Do we have a second? |
| Posted by: VFW Quartermaster 2016-08-01 18:23 |
| #18 Ok, OS, I'll own up. I support Trump because he's a nasty son of a bitch - and us NSBs should hang together so we won't hang separately. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-08-01 18:12 |
| #17 By the way mods, silencing opposing voices doesn't make them false. It makes you wrong. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2016-08-01 17:44 |
| #16 FYI Grom, you're confusing fighting everything in sight and being a thin skinned idiot with actually fighting effectively. There is a difference. This kind of "fighting" you praise is like the spray-and-pray, attack anyone that angers me at the moment idiocy that loses war after war for the Arabs. It takes discipline and direction. And that's what Im busting you and the other Trump people's chops about. You claimed to be in it to beat Hillary? Then show it. Show some discipline, show some concentration on the real target, show some minimal amount of intelligence in who you target. Otherwise you are the jackasses many of us accused you of being in the primaries. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2016-08-01 17:43 |
| #15 My fellow VFW members are with me on this one - Trump is wrong. And so are you who are backstopping him on this. Just stop it, and move on. You're wasting valuable time and effort and doing the notHillary effort damage by continuing this fight. http://www.vfw.org/News-and-Events/Articles/2016-Articles/VFW-Supports-Gold-Star-Families/ Grom, what I'm doing is trying to keep Hillary out of office, and now it appears that the Trump people aren't serious about that at all. All they want is to get payback. That doesn't win national elections. That is why you are in this? You sure aren't acting like it. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2016-08-01 17:36 |
| #14 These who don't fight don't win (e.g. McCain, Romney). And, I doubt very much that most Americans are so stupid they'll let one Muslim casualty, out of --- what it is by now: 5000, 10000 --- force them to forget dozens of Muslim terrorists in USA alone. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-08-01 16:34 |
| #13 For better or worse, the fellow on the lower right got the ring. it's a bit late for wishing otherwise, or bovine retort. Or am I wrong and there is yet some other solution? Please advise. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2016-08-01 16:18 |
| #12 You post Trump stuff you're going to get responses you don't like. Sadly, I agree with the the critics on this. Continuing to attack the Khans just keeps the spotlight on them, instead of on Hillary. Its basic Clausewitz - you want to concentrate your attacks on decisive points of your choosing. The Khan's are the Dems choice of fight, they have the press lined up to help them with this. Beating the Khans are hardly a decisive victory if you "defeat" them. And this is not going to stop Trump unless he gets stuck on it, so ignoring it is not that big of a risk. From what I can tell, this is purely emotional and anger based action, and a distraction from the main goal: to win the election. That is your main goal, right? Then ask yourself why you cannot just let this go and go after Hillary on things that will stop her. This is not one of those things. Go after the real target. Now do you see why us Trump opponents were so worried during the primaries? You guys are so angry you're going to blow this election on payback and being pissed off. Get some discipline and get serious about taking Hillary out. You want my vote? That's how you will earn it. Not by this petty bullshit of attacking anyone and everyone that disagrees with you. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2016-08-01 16:07 |
| #11 Sure. Pretty sure. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-08-01 15:26 |
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| Posted by: Cluck Ebbolugum4892 2016-08-01 15:12 |
| #9 I don't know if you are trolling or serious I'm pretty about you, One Eyed Ulaque7770. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-08-01 15:10 |
| #8 Another voice screeching "this isn't the battle". Sorry, heard that endlessly for the last few decades. Tired of it. Someone who may fight unnecessary fights is preferable to the spineless weasels we've had up to now. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2016-08-01 14:35 |
| #7 There is an article at Breitbart about this. Brietbart. Keyser Soze and the "Usual Suspects." Walid Shoebat has some info at his site: Shoebat. These articles say basically that the guy was used by the Clinton campaign (albeit a willing usee). Now all the Donks and Rinos are going nuts. The son can be honored for serving our country without buying into the rest of the B.S. created for political purposes. It only takes a glance at the DNC/Clinton emails to recognize these people are capable of anything. Trump has the right approach in dealing with them--hit them hard; keep them on the ropes because they will hit you hard. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2016-08-01 13:43 |
| #6 You can always find somebody. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-08-01 13:37 |
| #5 I suspect Hispanics who've chosen military careers live conservative lives and vote Republican. So there'd be no support there. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2016-08-01 13:29 |
| #4 I expect, for reasons known to many in this community, there is a 'cultural gravity' that attenuates the pseudo-random unit assignment process. Soldiers of Persian descent go to the middle east where their possible experience with the local customs, and appearance(profiling!) is considered an advantage. Soldiers of Spanish descent may get routed to points south where they will become notable casualties during a Carribean uprising, should Mexico attack Costa Rica or Brazil decides they want a canal... |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2016-08-01 09:50 |
| #3 So why no "Hispanic" casualty's parents speaking against "Trump's wall"? I'm not entirely sure, but I suspect the Democrats have simply decided they won't get quite as much mileage using Hispanics as their "Officially Recognized Poor Helpless Victim Identity Group" as they will using Muslims. They still pander to Hispanics and the cause of unrestricted immigration, of course, but it seems clear that for the time being, they've chosen Muslims as their Pander Partners. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2016-08-01 09:33 |
| #2 Now, I can't help wondering: there's a lot of "Hispanics" in US military, especially the Marines. And, I suppose, they've taken their share of casualties. So why no "Hispanic" casualty's parents speaking against "Trump's wall"? |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-08-01 08:58 |
| #1 About Khizr Khan, by Clarice Feldman: I was surprised that a NY law office would list a D.C. telephone number, so I called it to check and was told by the man who answered it was not Khazir Khan's law office, but the man who answered would not tell me who it was. So I did more digging and learned that is also the phone number of a group called American Muslims Vote, which says its mission is to: To create an enlightened community by providing and developing Patriotic American Muslim leadership and Encouraging American Muslims to participate in the democratic process at local, state and national level and vote on the election day. I did some further research into who registered this domain name and when? Khizr Khan registered it on July 23, 2016. He's looking increasingly like a plant to me -- a Muslim Cindy Sheehan playing on people's sympathies to foster a Democratic Party political agenda. And of course, in that goal he has the full throated support of the American media: |
| Posted by: badanov 2016-08-01 08:33 |