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| ‘Anything is legal’ in war: Giuliani defends Trump ‘taking’ Iraqi oil |
| 2016-09-12 |
| [RUDAW.NET] Rudy Giuliani, advisor to Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump, defended the candidate’s statement that the United States should have taken Iraq’s oil, saying that in war "anything is legal." "Leave a force back there and take it, but make sure it’s distributed in a proper way," Giuliani said in an interview on Sunday with George Stephanopoulos, host of ABC’s This Week, when asked to explain an earlier statement from Trump arguing that the US should have taken Iraq’s oil. When asked by Stephanopoulos if that was legal, Giuliani, a lawyer and former mayor of New York, chuckled while replying, "Of course it’s legal. It’s a war. Until the war is over, anything is legal." Last week, Trump said the US would have been right to "take the oil" in Iraq as a "spoil of war," to keep it out of the hands of the Islamic State ...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allaharound with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not reallyMoslems.... (ISIS). "If we would have taken the oil, you wouldn’t have ISIS, because ISIS formed with the power and wealth of that oil," Trump said during NBC News’ Commander-in-Chief Forum. Giuliani explained Trump’s position that ISIS got rich off of oil and that, had the US secured it and held some control over its distribution, "we would not be dealing with ISIS today. They wouldn’t exist." He also said that distribution of oil was a major source of dispute among Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites -- another reason why Americans should have taken control of the resource. But Giuliani did distance himself and Trump from the notion of taking the oil as a spoil of war. "He didn’t say we should take it for ourselves necessarily. He said we should secure it, so it doesn’t get taken by terrorist forces," he explained in the interview. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #11 ..and hasn't that been part of the squabble among the post-Saddam in house factions, who gets who much to sale? |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2016-09-12 15:51 |
| #10 Perhaps, you could describe the favorable outcome if the Iraqi's were to be told that their primary resources were no longer in their control? When were those resources *ever* in their control? |
| Posted by: Crusader 2016-09-12 13:22 |
| #9 DepotGuy, we would be completely justified taking at least enough oil to pay for our war effort and any misguided nation building that followed. You might call it reparations. Indeed, they would no longer be in control of their resources. Tough shit. They lost. But, as I said, we went after the wrong oil field. The threat was, and still remains, Soddy Arabia. But as long as we are ruled by the Bush/Clinton dynasty that is totally beholden to the House of Sod, the Soddies won't have to worry. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2016-09-12 13:19 |
| #8 Perhaps, you could describe the favorable outcome if the Iraqi's were to be told that their primary resources were no longer in their control? They would revolt and kill 4000 Americans? |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-09-12 13:16 |
| #7 Ok, so he did. So what? You want ISIS to have control of the oil? Maybe the Russians? Perhaps Iran? Holy reducio ad absurdum there Strawman. Pointing out Guliani's total misrepresentation is hardly advocating for terrorist control of Iraqi resources. Why don't you explain to us how this should work,sport? Since you asked, it's probably a good idea to steer clear of that whole Empire thing all together. Perhaps, you could describe the favorable outcome if the Iraqi's were to be told that their primary resources were no longer in their control? |
| Posted by: DepotGuy 2016-09-12 12:45 |
| #6 Having said that, I would have preferred taking Soddy oil instead of Iraqi oil. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2016-09-12 12:06 |
| #5 OK, first of all, Stephanopoulos is not a journalist or a news man of any sort. He is a Democrat party apparatchik so anything that any honest man like Giuliani says to him is going to be twisted to fit the Democrat narrative of the day. So now, was flying airplanes into the Twin Towers legal? How about shooting innocent civilians in Paris? Or bombing an airport terminal in Brussels? How about shooting up a gay bar in Orlando? You don't win wars with lawyers. You win wars with soldiers, sailors and airmen who have orders simply to kill people and break things until the enemy either surrenders unconditionally or until all of them are dead. You do not engage in wars just because you have some cockeyed image of yourself as the world's policeman. You fight wars to eliminate threats to the freedom and safety of the American people. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2016-09-12 12:04 |
| #4 Ok, he did. So what? You want ISIS to have control of the oil? Maybe the Russians. Perhaps Iran? Good God, Phack, are you that clueless that you have no sense of world affairs, world politics, and world balance? You think it would be evil for the United States to keep a strategic resource out of the hands of terrorists? Why don't you explain to us how this should work, sport? AoS moderator |
| Posted by: Steve White 2016-09-12 11:31 |
| #3 "He didn't say we should take it for ourselves necessarily. .." Yes he did Rudy. And he has said as much on more than one occasion. God almighty, the Trump defenders never miss an opportunity to offend their audience 's intelligence. Clarify. ..spin...whatever. ..just save your horseshit for someone else. |
| Posted by: Phack Smith9251 2016-09-12 08:23 |
| #2 Don't recall winners facing facing 'war crimes' trials. Last week, Trump said the US would have been right to "take the oil" in Iraq as a "spoil of war," to keep it out of the hands of the Islamic State It's just another version of Scorched Earth. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2016-09-12 07:00 |
| #1 ‘Anything is legal’ in war Except loosing. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-09-12 05:22 |