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Home Front: Politix

Four women claim Trump is a groping, kissing octopus

2016-10-13

[DailyMail] 'He was like an octopus,' she told the Times. 'His hands were everywhere.'

Leeds, who told the newspaper the incident 'was an assault', said she rushed to the back of the plane to escape Trump's advances.

The second woman the newspaper claims was touched inappropriately by Trump is Rachel Crooks. Crooks was a 22-year-old working as a receptionist at Bayrock Group, a real estate company based in Trump Tower in Manhattan, when she says Trump kissed her on the mouth without permission while in an elevator.

'It was so inappropriate,' Ms. Crooks told the New York Times. 'I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.'

Crooks told the newspaper the incident took place after she shook hands with Trump in an elevator and he allegedly refused to let go. She says he then began kissing her on the cheeks, before then kissing her lips.
Con't.

Posted by:Besoeker

#32 It would be a daunting task indeed. But it could still be done.

Od course Donald would need to listen. That seems to be the hardest part.

Posted by: European Conservative 2016-10-13 21:45

#31 EC you are hired!

Posted by: Omavirt Thineter1172 2016-10-13 20:33

#30 As I have commented before, I don't like Trump. But I must admit it would have been a fascinating idea to run his campaign. It was winnable. But not the way it was run.

And yes you need to UNDERSTAND the rules if you want to break them. You don't walk into a debate with a seasoned politician unprepared.

Trump seems to be unable to formulate and lay out a thought properly. Every time he is just about to make a point, there comes his terminally annoying "btw", he totally changes the subject and the point is lost.

Hillary is easy to beat. Concentrate on her most important weaknesses: Emails, corruption etc. and make your point. And if you can't do it properly, just return the ball.

Want an example? Don't whine about your opponent getting more debate time than you do. Turn this into an advantage.

So what he could have done when Hillary offered her usual non-excuse. Say this:

"I gladly yield my 2 minutes to Hillary so she can explain in detail why her actions were not a crime. And if that's not enough, she can have my next 2 minutes as well. Or the next 30 minutes."

Posted by: European Conservative 2016-10-13 18:54

#29 The claims stink. And the Times.
Waiting for more info.

Posted by: swksvolFF 2016-10-13 18:45

#28 "Crooks was a 22-year-old working as a receptionist at Bayrock Group, a real estate company based in Trump Tower in Manhattan, when she says Trump kissed her on the mouth without permission while in an elevator."

Without witnesses or camera, impossible to prove. You'd only have a chance if the molester already had a record.

Posted by: European Conservative 2016-10-13 18:40

#27 @European Conservative

Only if the billionaire fights it in court rather than settling, which is what most people would expect. So far there is no evidence any of them even talked to a lawyer.

Posted by: rjschwarz 2016-10-13 18:30

#26 @rjschwarz

It's not all that easy to sue a billionaire. You want to have deep pockets.

And think of the Cosby case.

Posted by: European Conservative 2016-10-13 18:25

#25 During the primaries he was master of the News Cycle, he better start mastering them again.

Posted by: rjschwarz 2016-10-13 15:34

#24 Defense doesn't win elections. If you give this more attention, and continue to attack the accusers, it calls more negatives on Trump and lets them play the victim card.

Dismiss them once, and get this off the news. Trumps supporters (and his own ego) are his worst enemies in things like this, like the mess with the Khans. Address it, dismiss it, then get back on the attack against Hillary. Determine the subject to the press rather than the other way around.

Posted by: OldSpook 2016-10-13 15:28

#23 @#22: Well and pithily said.

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2016-10-13 15:20

#22 Four that didn't file police reports or try to sue the very recognizable billionaire.

Posted by: rjschwarz 2016-10-13 14:21

#21 Trump supporters may not be bothered by this, but people who aren't members of his fan club already are being pushed away by it, no matter how you supporters try to pretend otherwise. Independents are what will decide this race, and Trump is going to lose some of them over this. Stop with the excusing bad behavior from your candidate, condmen it, and move back to the topic of how much of a criminal Hillary is. And by the way. "He (Bill) did it Too" is stupid and is about as valid an argument now as it was in kindergarten. Stop it, it makes you look stupid and detracts from an other argument syou may have.

Posted by: Mad Eye Cholurong9873 2016-10-13 14:16

#20 Anyone that didn't see this coming wasn't paying attention. The news organizations held this from the primaries to make sure Trump won, and then held until now so they could slime Tump when it hurts worst and has the least amount of time to recover.

Who is going to hold the press responsible for manipulation of the election, for choosing a side and then working like Pravda for it?

Posted by: Slimp Chang6475 2016-10-13 14:11

#19 Anita Hill rides again!

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-10-13 13:45

#18 I do have a question.

The "First Class" accuser was skimming along in an aluminum tube being groped by the stranger sitting next to her, and she didn't alert the flight crew?

As I recall, the '80's was the wind-down period for the Second Wave of Feminism where a woman had little to fear in reporting an assailant.

No alarm seems to suggest Ms. Leeds may have had some regrets when the (implied or expressed) "call me" went unrequited?

See also: Trump spokeswoman says airplane armrests debunk sexual assault accusation

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2016-10-13 13:39

#17 Clearly, all these women coming forward now would prefer a president who watched them being groped, then defended the groper.

Posted by: Bobby 2016-10-13 13:26

#16 Sure, he is/was acting like a Richard, but they were there weren't they.

Posted by: Skidmark 2016-10-13 09:43

#15 The Howard Stern Tape of Mr. Trump seemingly bragging of his "total access" is disturbing.

This aside, EC (#5) has a point; the "X" Chromosomes are going nutty with this "scandal." But that was the intent.

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2016-10-13 08:26

#14 Trump's lawyers have sent a "cease and desist" letter to the NYTimes. Elsewhere it is reported they are preparing a law suit. It is interesting to speculate that given the blatantly stupid statements by Times editors the successful prosecution of a libel suit might cause the NYTimes to, in effect, repay Trump for expenses incurred during his election campaign.

Posted by: Shick de Medici6262 2016-10-13 08:23

#13 The stories wouldn't go far without all that stuff Trump said himself. He knows what he said. And because he knows, his approach to the issue is lethal.

Posted by: European Conservative 2016-10-13 01:09

#12 I don't believe anybody, male or female, of unprivileged classes cares.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-10-13 01:07

#11 The ones too stupid to realize they are being played for the fools they are - which, unfortunately, is far too many of them.

Posted by: CrazyFool 2016-10-13 01:05

#10 And it's going to influence the electorate, CF?

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-10-13 01:03

#9 Sadly it doesn't have to be true.

The Media will be harping on this for the next six weeks nonstop. Even if its proven that they 4 are liars paid by Clinton or Soros - they will repeat it as the truth nonstop.

Its what they do.

Posted by: CrazyFool 2016-10-13 01:00

#8 I thought Trump was a russian spy - aren't spies supposed to behave like that?

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-10-13 00:58

#7 Well, let's add a "sometimes", and of course this is also true the other way round. Sometimes a little distance helps.

Posted by: European Conservative 2016-10-13 00:47

#6 Maybe as a foreigner I understand Americans better than they do.

Whatever you say, Mr. Munich...

Posted by: Raj 2016-10-13 00:43

#5 I'll do some serious bragging now. Maybe as a foreigner I understand Americans better than they do. And I tell you this: If I were in charge of the Trump campaign, he'll look a lot better.

A man with the personal (and public) history can never be defensive and "sex scandals" in the U.S. will kill you if you retreat.

So do not hide. What Trump needed to do when the Alicia Machado trap was laid out was not to attack others. No, what he should have said was this:

You know who I am. It's all out there. I'm that larger than life person you want, not a conniving politicians. I'm a man. Hell, a macho. I love women. Always have. Treated them well most of the time, sometimes I didn't. Sorry. Dig out all you want about me. I lived my life to the fullest, and all you hypocrites out there wish that you could say the same about your life. Deal with it.

If you vote for me you'll vote for an authentic man who will look after you, who will look after America and throw all those hypocrites out.

Try me, you'll like it.

Posted by: European Conservative 2016-10-13 00:41

#4 An attempt at innoculation?

Very much. And an attempt to Herman Cain him in the process. I truly hope it does not work.

Not a fan of trump, but rather much more fearful of the alternative.

and to be honest- trump does cause apoplexy in all the right people. Even if he does turn out to be a dud, it will be worth it just for the schadenfreude!

Posted by: Nguard 2016-10-13 00:34

#3 Mr. Trump denies it. Oddly enough, the descriptions sound somewhat like things Mr. Clinton is known to have done. An attempt at innoculation?

Posted by: trailing wife 2016-10-13 00:15

#2 Looks like the checks cleared...

Posted by: Raj 2016-10-13 00:14

#1 FOUR???

Geez Donald get on it man, why Billy boy Clinton could grope that many before lunch.

Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2016-10-13 00:08

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