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Down Under

20 years on - Auzzie government admits 'criminals still have guns.'

2016-10-23

[Breitbart] On Friday, the government of gun-controlled Australia admitted that hundreds of thousands of "illegal firearms" remain in criminal possession and launched a new amnesty in hopes of persuading said criminals to turn over the weapons.

In September, Breitbart News reported that Melbourne, Australia, had a gun problem; that they had witnessed more than one shooting a week on average since January 2015.

Moreover, The Age reported:

Known criminals were caught with firearms 755 times [in 2015], compared to 143 times in 2011.

The epicentre of the problem is a triangle between Coolaroo, Campbellfield and Glenroy in the north-west, with Cranbourne, Narre Warren and Dandenong in the south-east close behind
Criminals are u sing gunshot wounds to the arms and legs as warnings to pay debts Assault rifles and handguns are being smuggled into Australia via shipments of electronics and metal parts Now the government of Australia is admitting that hundreds of thousands of "illegal guns" - "illicit firearms" - in the hands of criminals some 20 years after Australia's gun ban was implemented.

Posted by:Besoeker

#6 I view the 1st and 2nd Amendments more as warnings than guarantees.

The guarantees are what people do to ensure their rights are respected by government, including keeping and bearing arms, even in the face of admonitions that gun rights are "gone" when a political operative of any kind gets into office.

I called this Oz thing a year ago, pointing out that the Australian gun laws -- laws up until now which were regarded by opponents of the right to keep and bear arms as a model for "what should be done" in the US -- were universally ignored, and were therefore a massive failure and a waste of government resources.

The announcement by the elected government of Australia only confirmed what I have been contending for a while now.

Another example which should have taken the breath away of every gun grabbing fascist: New York state had a registration rate of five percent of semiautomatic rifles since their Draconian gun laws were passed in 2013.

Posted by: badanov 2016-10-23 09:31

#5 Surprised?

Posted by: JohnQC 2016-10-23 09:09

#4 Australia has a lot worse problems - like NO constitutional guarantee of free speech

There's a correlation between our First and Second Amendments, y'know.

Posted by: Pappy 2016-10-23 08:24

#3 besoeker: hello there, yes, you are in deep trouble if Hillary wins

if Hillary wins, 2nd amendment is gone.

but this is a disaster for america, because of the reasons above. It won't work it just means a free field for criminals

Posted by: anon1 2016-10-23 08:23

#2 If you do the same in the US most people will say "yes".

And for this, our politicians would delight in making us a nation of 'convicts' as well. Perhaps we have more in common than we know.

Posted by: Besoeker 2016-10-23 08:10

#1 true but australia having gun control laws is NO argument for trying to disarm the USA

they are 2 different cases

Australia has tough gun laws but it's OK it works because most of the population don't own guns. Some criminals have illegal firearms but not many and if caught they are taken forever out of the market

People that own guns have to keep them in locked gun safes.

But it works here because we never had widespread gun ownership.

So lots of people in Australia foolishly think they know best and that they can tell the US what to do - but the US is a whole different country.

The US has widespread gun ownership and the second amendment which is constitutionally important.

so that means you can't bring in gun control laws in the same way

and if you try that in the US all that will happen is law abiding folk will give up their guns while criminals will have all the guns

So it just wouldn't work.

But this is why there is a cultural difference between the two countries. If you walk down any street in australia and ask if people should be able to own guns most people will say "no".

If you do the same in the US most people will say "yes".

Australia has a lot worse problems - like NO constitutional guarantee of free speech

Posted by: anon1 2016-10-23 06:25

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