You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns, November 19th, 2016
2016-11-19


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Three tales of reactions to the election of Donald J. Trump from Leftists/Liberals:

The first is Gary Perl, a retired New York City teacher and aspiring writer who suggested that "Trump Nazis" would invade the homes of "people of color." His suggestion was for the various racial communities to "arm yourselves legally." His post was linked to in the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms ownership facebook page. His statement was noticed by John Comeau, who criticized reactions by gun owners, and posted those remarks on the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership Facebook page. The change of view which had Perl considering a firearm purchase, said Comeau, should have been welcomed instead of criticized.

Perl posted a comment on the JFPFO Facebook page which said: "Now that Adolph Hitler part 2 is our president and because he advocates violence and is supported by alt-right Nazis, I intend o take advantage of my second amendment rights for the first time in my life. Sorry assholes but if any Trumpenschtuppen darkens my door to do me or mine harm, there will be there blood before mine."

The comment can be seen as a definitive threat, but from a man living in a state which would likely bar his foray into firearms ownership. It is hard to embrace a change of heart about owning a gun when the individual changing calls members of a group "assholes."

What I read into the reaction was that the man was criticized for not knowing that he could not acquire a semiautomatic for self defense in New York state; such weapons are banned by New York state law.

There are other outlets for at least learning about firearms that I recommend to anyone in New York. But you simply can't own the firearms you want to know about without moving from New York state.

Even so, my best prediction is that Gidon Cherev would run him him off their training grounds the moment he started to shoot his mouth off.

But, it's just a guess.

The second is freelance gun writer and National Rifle Association (NRA) member Jorge Amselle, who revealed in an interview last May that he supported Hillary Clinton for president. His reasoning, according to the linked article, was that since the two terms of Barak Obama had not been too bad for gun rights, voting for Clinton would be the same as voting for Obama. Which is true, and has been stated very clearly by the Clinton campaign.

The story came up when Jorge Amselle was mentioned in an article by another writer, David Fortier, who wrote about encountering Amselle at AR15.com. (Link to AR15.com is hosed. Sorry.) War on Guns writer David Cordea mentioned Amselle in an article entitled "The Enemy Within." Cordrea said in other articles that a number of firearm trainers support Amselle, which is not surprising at all.

The writer of the article for The Truth About Guns, John Boch, commented that the numerous gun publications which have used his services in the past will likely cease now that Amselle's sympathies are so well known. Given the sensibilities of his supporters within the firearms trainer community, you gotta wonder.

Last is the most humorous, and the most pathetic.

A Rutgers Gender Studies professor, Kevin Allred, said in a Twitter post "Will the 2nd amendment be as cool when I buy a gun and start shooting at random white people or no…?”. After being taken to Bellevue Hospital for an evaluation by the New York City Police department, he was instructed to remove the tweet, which he did, but not without offering an explanation:

"i said: would conservatives care as much abt the 2nd amendment if guns killed more white people? a question meant to expose double standard."

Another tweet he posted following the incident:

“I’m being labeled a threat and put in a psych hospital. Trump’s crackdown on free speech has absolutely begun.”

"Trumps crackdown on free speech" has not been very effective so far, it would appear.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were mixed. Prices for rifle ammunition were mostly lower.

Prices for used pistols were higher across the board. Prices for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

None.

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .24 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: +.02 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo Mart, Buffalo Cartridge, RSFP, Brass Casing, Reloads, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: J&G Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Red River Reloading & Outdoors, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .16 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel casing, .16 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: Red River Reloading & Outdoors, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: J&G Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel casing, .25 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ourdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .36 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .36 per round (From Last Week: -.24 Each (!))

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition deport, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged)

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds (10 Box Limit): Ammo King, Federal, RNL, .06 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Aguila, RNL, .07 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged)

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $550 Last Week Avg: $555(-) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $476 (3Q, 2015))
California (287, 279): Undisclosed Brand: $550 ($650 (1Q, 2015), $400 (2Q, 2016))
Texas (258, 269): Bushmaster: $650 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (146, 142): Palmetto State Armory: $500 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (196, 188): Mixed Build: $600 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $475 (28 Weeks))
Florida (381, 360): Undisclosed Brand: $450 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $1,030 Last Week Avg: $1,019 (+) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $820 (3Q, 2015))
California (90, 78): DPMS Panther LR-308T: $900 ($1,700 (4Q, 2014), $850 (3Q, 2015))
Texas (94, 91): Bushmaster: $1,050 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $700 (17 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (20, 26): Palmetto State Armory: $1,600 ($1,600 (CA: $1,500 (1Q, 2015)), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (47, 48): Palmetto State Armory: $875 ($2,750 (43 Weeks), $800 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (68, 73): DPMS LR-308 Sportical: $725 ($1,950 (29 Weeks), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $595 Last Week Avg: $626(-) ($668 (18 Weeks)), $450 (3Q, 2015))
California (75, 71): Romak: $700 ($800 (24 Weeks)), $320 (4Q, 2014))
Texas (83, 79): Century Arms M70: $575 ($800 (44 Weeks), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (42, 42): IO: $500 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (44, 44): IO: $600 ($700 (24 Weeks), $350 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (95, 98): WASR 10: $600 ($700 (37 Weeks), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $406 Last Week Avg: $373(+) ($495 (6 Weeks), $296 (3Q, 2015))
California (0, 0): None Available: $0 ($1,000 (5 Weeks), $180 (2Q, 2015))
Texas (16, 15): Winchester Ranger: $450 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $300 (1Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (17, 16): Marlin 1936: $375 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (9, 9): Marlin 336: $400 ($670 (28 Weeks)), $250 (50 Weeks))
Florida (22, 25): Winchester 94: $400 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $409 Last Week Avg: $400(+) ($515 (15 Weeks)), $350 (4Q, 2015))
California (207, 216): Rock Island Armory: $495 ($800 (15 Weeks), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Texas (244, 238): Llama Especial: $400 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $325 (3Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (155, 164): Taurus PT1911: $450 ($550 (2Q, 2015), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (150, 145): Interarms 1911-A1: $300 ($575 (42 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (350, 352): Springfield: $400 ($500 (41 Weeks), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $253 Last Week Avg: $249(+) ($358 (38 Weeks), $245 (30 Weeks))
California (258, 261): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $300 ($500 (38 Weeks), $200 (4Q, 2015))
Texas (333, 334): Llama Minimax 9: $200 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $200 (3Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (287, 280): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $250 ($350 (4Q 2014), $200 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (243, 230): Sccy CPX2: $235 ($425 (46 Weeks), $189 (33 Weeks))
Florida (565, 554): Smith & Wesson 5906: $280 ($400 (35 Weeks), $190 (15 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $321 Last Week Avg: $308(+) ($399 (43 Weeks), $262 (23 Weeks))
California (88, 93): Springfield XD-40: $380 ($560 (45 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Texas (121, 122): Taurus PT101P: $350 ($425 (4Q, 2014), ($210 (8 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (101, 97): Taurus PT 24-7: $225 ($450 (32 Weeks), $200 (12 Weeks))
Virginia (62, 65): Glock 27: $400 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $275 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (156, 157): Taurus 24/7 G2: $250 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (51 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (Florida)
Remington 700 Chambered in 7.62mm NATO
Posted by:badanov

#5  Took me awhile Skid. Lol.
Posted by: Shipman   2016-11-19 19:52  

#4  I think the last time I heard from him, he was hiding in a pub in the UK, saying he won't come back to America until we get rid of guns.

(snaps finger)

I think I just figured out a Christmas present.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2016-11-19 15:36  

#3  Has Master Batemen weighed in yet?

Forgot all about him. Wonder if he ever made flag rank.
Posted by: badanov   2016-11-19 14:28  

#2  Stocking Stuffers. Mine came in Monday before the general election.

So now that these tyrants and petty womenmen (apologies to the ladies, no slight intended) effectively outlawed what they are needing to discourage what they perceive as a potential over-reaching government.

Here is my problem with Gay Perl. He knows as much about firearms as I know about skinny jeans. You want a firearm to defend yourself. God bless you, welcome to the America you all have been trying to destroy. If you have the moral fortitude to take 30 minutes of jabs and ridicule from your new instructors of an institution they spent their entire lives learning and you spent your entire life trying to destroy, admit you are wrong, know nothing about the topic, and responsibility the fuck up. Realize you know nothing about this, realize you probably don't know anything much about anything else than poking a keyboard and sipping whine.

Has Master Batemen weighed in yet?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2016-11-19 12:08  

#1  Dropped my Guns & Ammo subscription over nevertrumper dana loesch. She is featured in NRA publications too, but I won't resign my lifetime membership over that. Hopefully they realize she is not an asset.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2016-11-19 09:46  

00:00